<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 2013-06-17, at 9:34 AM, Tim Brody <<a href="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk">tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> RCUK guidance [in] section3.14 of:<br><a href="http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/RCUKOpenAccessPolicy.pdf">http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/RCUKOpenAccessPolicy.pdf</a><br><br>Is all about monitoring for gold *and green* (including embargoes)?<br><br>"measure the impact of Open Access across the landscape including use of<br>both immediate publishing (‘Gold’) and the use of repositories(‘Green’),<br>and"<br><br>"For articles which are not made immediately open access ... a statement<br>of the length of the embargo period [will be required]"<br><br>I spent last Friday at a workshop of UK EPrints users that was all about<br>how we're going to report open access compliance to RCUK.<br></blockquote><br></div><div>Well it would be splendid if RCUK monitored Green as it monitors Gold!</div><div><br></div><div>What I meant was monitoring Green *compliance* (i.e., making sure</div><div>the papers are deposited), just as the money spent on Gold is being</div><div>monitored. </div><div><br></div><div>I don't think a solemn statement of the intention to deposit some day --</div><div>especially since RCUK have announced that they will not be enforcing</div><div>embargo lengths for the indeterminate nonce -- is a compliance mechanism.</div><div><br></div><div>The remedy will come from HEFCE, if their proposed immediate-deposit</div><div>mandate is adopted, for eligibility for REF: It is <i>a monitoring mechanism</i></div><div><i>that ensures date-stamped immediate-deposit </i>that is needed.</div><div><br></div><div>Let us hope that is the compliance mechanism RCUK, in collaboration</div><div>with the funded institutions, will adopt.</div><div><br></div><div>SH</div><br></body></html>