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<FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>Yes, here are some: <a href="http://www.openoasis.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=553&Itemid=378">http://www.openoasis.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=553&Itemid=378</a><BR>
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Wolters Kluwer bought Medknow a couple of years ago but has (so far) retained its subscription-plus-immediate-free-access model: <a href="http://www.medknow.com/journals.asp">http://www.medknow.com/journals.asp</a><BR>
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Alma Swan<BR>
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On 19/04/2013 06:52, "Jan Velterop" <<a href="velterop@gmail.com">velterop@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>Are there examples of such "subscription journals that make their online version freely accessible online (immediately upon publication)."<BR>
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Who would subscribe, and what would a subscription entail?<BR>
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Jan Velterop<BR>
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On 19 Apr 2013, at 05:16, Stevan Harnad <<a href="amsciforum@gmail.com">amsciforum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jean-Claude Guédon <<a href="jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca">jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>The reference to free Gold journals covered by subscriptions is not clear to me. Is this a reference to SCOAP3?<BR>
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It's a reference to all subscription journals that make their online version freely accessible online (immediately upon publication).<BR>
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(No, SCOAP3 is a premature and unnecessary post-hoc consortial "membership" scheme that I think will not prove sustainable. The HEP fields have already provided near 100% (Green) OA for 20 years, un-mandated. What's needed next is for institutions and funders to mandate that all other disciplines do likewise.)<BR>
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Stevan Harnad<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 07:45 +0100, Stevan Harnad a écrit : <BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'> 1. The Green/Gold Open Access (OA) distinction concerns whether it is the author or the publisher that provides the OA.<BR>
2. This distinction was important to mark with clear terms because the conflation of the two roads to OA has practical implications and has been holding up OA progress for a decade and a half.<BR>
3. The distinction between paid Gold and free Gold is very far from being a straightforward one.<BR>
4. Free Gold can be free (to the author) because the expenses of the Gold journal are covered by subscriptions, subsidies or volunteerism. <BR>
5. The funds for Paid Gold can come from the author's pocket, the author's research grant, the author's institution or the author's funder.<BR>
6. It would be both absurd and gratuitously confusing to mark each of these economic-model differences with a color-code.<BR>
7. Superfluous extra colors would also obscure the role that the colour-code was invented to perform: distinguishing author-side OA provision from publisher-side OA provision.<BR>
8. So, please, let's not have "diamond," "platinum" and "titanium" OA <<a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/993-.html">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/993-.html</a>> , despite the metallurgical temptations.<BR>
9. They amplify noise instead of pinpointing the signal, just as SHERPA/Romeo <<a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/453-SHERPARoMEO-Publishers-with-Paid-Options-for-Open-Access.html">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/453-SHERPARoMEO-Publishers-with-Paid-Options-for-Open-Access.html</a>> 's parti-colored Blue/Yellow/Green spectrum <<a href="http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeoinfo.html#colours">http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeoinfo.html#colours</a>> (mercifully ignored by almost everyone) does.<BR>
10. OA is about providing Open Access to peer-reviewed journal articles, not about cost-recovery models for OA publishing (Gold OA).<BR>
11. The Gold that publishers are fighting for and that researcher funders are subsidizing (whether "pure" or "hybrid") is paid Gold, not free Gold.<BR>
12. No one knows whether or how free Gold will be sustainable, any more than they know whether or how long subscription publishing can co-exist viably with mandatory Green OA. <BR>
13. So please leave the economic ideology and speculation out of the pragmatics of OA policy making by the research community (institutions and funders).<BR>
14. Cost-recovery models are the province of publishers (Gold OA). <BR>
15. What the research community needs to do is mandate OA provision.<BR>
16. The only OA provision that is entirely in the research community's hands is Green OA.<BR>
And, before you ask, please let's not play into the publishers' hands by colour-coding OA also in terms of the length of the publisher embargo: 3-month OA, 6-month OA, 12-month-OA, 24-month-OA, millennial OA: OA means <I>immediate online access</I>. Anything else is delayed access. (The only quasi-exception is the "Almost-OA <<a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/839-Publisher-OA-Embargoes,-IDOA-Mandates-and-the-Almost-OA-Button.html">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/839-Publisher-OA-Embargoes,-IDOA-Mandates-and-the-Almost-OA-Button.html</a>> " provided by the author via the institutional repository's email-eprint-request Button when complying with publisher embargoes -- but that too is clearly <I>not OA,</I> which is immediate, free online access.)<BR>
And on no account should the genuine, substantive distinction between Gratis OA <<a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html</a>> (free online access) and Libre OA <<a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html</a>> (free online access plus various re-use rights) be color-coded (with a different shade for every variety of CC license)!<BR>
Harnad, S., Brody, T., Vallieres, F., Carr, L., Hitchcock, S., Gingras, Y, Oppenheim, C., Stamerjohanns, H., & Hilf, E. (2004) The Access/Impact Problem and the Green and Gold Roads to Open Access <<a href="http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/10209/">http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/10209/</a>> . Serials Review 30. Shorter version: The green and the gold roads to Open Access <<a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/accessdebate/21.html">http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/accessdebate/21.html</a>> . <I>Nature Web Focus</I>. <BR>
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