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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for the comments David. Your point about not equating Gold OA with APCs is well taken.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>But it also invites a question I think: do we know what percentage of papers(not journals, but papers) published Gold OA today incur no APC charge, and what do we anticipate this percentage becoming in a post-Finch world?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Prosser<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2012 19:53<br><b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br><b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As ever, Richard has put together a fascinating and entertaining interview, and augmented it with a really useful essay on the current state of OA policies.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a small quibble. On page two, Richard writes:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"...or by means of gold OA, in which researchers (or more usually their funders) pay publishers an article-processing charge (APC) to ensure that their paper is made freely available on the Web at the time of publication."</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>APCs make up just one business model that can be used to support Gold OA. Gold is OA through journals - it makes no assumption about how the costs of publication are paid for. I think it is helpful to ensure that we do not equate Gold with APCs.</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>David</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 3 Dec 2012, at 18:51, Richard Poynder wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Stuart Shieber is the Welch Professor of Computer Science at Harvard University,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Faculty Co-Director</span></i></a></span><span class=apple-converted-space><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'> </span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>of the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Berkman Center for Internet and Society</span></i></a></span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>, Director of Harvard’s Office for Scholarly Communication (</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://osc.hul.harvard.edu/"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>OSC</span></i></a></span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>), and chief architect of the Harvard Open Access (</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>OA</span></i></a></span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>) Policy — a 2008 initiative that has seen Harvard become a major force in the OA movement.</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'> </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html">http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><ATT00001..txt><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>