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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My colleague does an in-depth annual study on the uptake of different business models, and suggests that this figure was 3-4% of total articles at the start
of 2012. Elsevier, and I’m sure a wide array of other publishers, have used a range of business models to produce free-to-read journals for decades. I find it very interesting that these models are now claimed by the open access community as ‘gold oa’ titles
although I suppose that’s much less of a mouthful than ‘free-at-the-point-of-use’ titles!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With kind wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alicia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Poynder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for the comments David. Your point about not equating Gold OA with APCs is well taken.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D">But it also invites a question I think: do we know what percentage of papers(not journals, but papers) published Gold OA today incur no APC charge,
and what do we anticipate this percentage becoming in a post-Finch world?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";color:#1F497D">Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> [<a href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Prosser<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2012 19:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">As ever, Richard has put together a fascinating and entertaining interview, and augmented it with a really useful essay on the current state of OA policies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I have a small quibble. On page two, Richard writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"...or by means of gold OA, in which researchers (or more usually their funders) pay publishers an article-processing charge (APC) to ensure that their paper is made freely
available on the Web at the time of publication."</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Center for Internet and Society</span></i></a></span><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"">, Director of Harvard’s Office for Scholarly Communication (</span></i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://osc.hul.harvard.edu/"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"">OSC</span></i></a></span><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"">),
and chief architect of the Harvard Open Access (</span></i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"">OA</span></i></a></span><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"">)
Policy — a 2008 initiative that has seen Harvard become a major force in the OA movement.</span></i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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