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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=314012314-12122012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>This seems an odd usage of the term 'free at the point of
use'. Surely all journals to which the user's library subscribes are
that?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=314012314-12122012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Sally</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> goal-bounces@eprints.org
[mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Wise, Alicia
(ELS-OXF)<BR><B>Sent:</B> 12 December 2012 12:59<BR><B>To:</B> Global Open
Access List (Successor of AmSci)<BR><B>Subject:</B> [GOAL] Re: Interview with
Harvard's Stuart Shieber<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi
Richard,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My
colleague does an in-depth annual study on the uptake of different business
models, and suggests that this figure was 3-4% of total articles at the start of
2012. Elsevier, and I’m sure a wide array of other publishers, have used a
range of business models to produce free-to-read journals for decades. I find it
very interesting that these models are now claimed by the open access community
as ‘gold oa’ titles although I suppose that’s much less of a mouthful than
‘free-at-the-point-of-use’ titles! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">With
kind wishes,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Alicia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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goal-bounces@eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Richard Poynder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:42
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Global Open Access List (Successor of
AmSci)'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart
Shieber<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Andalus','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-GB>Thanks for the comments David. Your point about not equating Gold OA
with APCs is well taken.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Andalus','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Andalus','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-GB>But it also invites a question I think: do we know what percentage of
papers(not journals, but papers) published Gold OA today incur no APC charge,
and what do we anticipate this percentage becoming in a post-Finch
world?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Andalus','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-GB>Richard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> <A
href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>David Prosser<BR><B>Sent:</B> 11 December 2012
19:53<BR><B>To:</B> Global Open Access List (Successor of
AmSci)<BR><B>Subject:</B> [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart
Shieber<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB>As ever, Richard has put together a
fascinating and entertaining interview, and augmented it with a really useful
essay on the current state of OA policies.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB>I have a small quibble. On page two,
Richard writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'"
lang=EN-GB>"...or by means of gold OA, in which researchers (or more usually
their funders) pay publishers an article-processing charge (APC) to ensure that
their paper is made freely available on the Web at the time of
publication."</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'"
lang=EN-GB>APCs make up just one business model that can be used to support Gold
OA. Gold is OA through journals - it makes no assumption about how the
costs of publication are paid for. I think it is helpful to ensure that we
do not equate Gold with APCs.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'"
lang=EN-GB>David</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB>On 3 Dec 2012, at 18:51, Richard Poynder
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-GB>Stuart Shieber is the Welch Professor of Computer Science at
Harvard University,<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-GB><A
href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Faculty
Co-Director</SPAN></I></A></SPAN><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-GB> </SPAN></I></SPAN><I><SPAN
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lang=EN-GB>of the<SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-GB><A
href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Berkman
Center for Internet and Society</SPAN></I></A></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-GB>,
Director of Harvard’s Office for Scholarly Communication (</SPAN></I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-GB><A
href="http://osc.hul.harvard.edu/"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">OSC</SPAN></I></A></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-GB>), and chief architect of the Harvard Open Access
(</SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-GB><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">OA</SPAN></I></A></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-GB>)
Policy — a 2008 initiative that has seen Harvard become a major force in the
OA movement.</SPAN></I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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href="http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html">http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html</A></SPAN><SPAN
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