<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 2012-11-05, at 3:42 AM, "Kornbrot, Diana" <<a href="mailto:d.e.kornbrot@HERTS.AC.UK">d.e.kornbrot@HERTS.AC.UK</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
<title>Re: JISC-REPOSITORIES Digest - 2 Nov 2012 to 4 Nov 2012 (#2012-207)</title>
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<font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt">It would be a good idea if publishers were REQUIRED to download</span></font></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt">this meta data web download citation is requested<br>
Similarly they should be REQUIRED to download the repository URL<br></span></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Diana, I am afraid this is putting the shoe on the wrong foot! </div><div><br></div><div>Funder mandates don't bind publishers, they bind fundees.</div><div><br></div><div>And in general it is a mistake to rely on what publishers (even Gold OA publishers) do:</div><div><br></div><div>For all articles -- subscription, hybrid-gold, full-gold, embargoed, un-embargoed) -- the </div><div>default option should be for authors to </div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">deposit <b>full-text </b>(author final draft) </blockquote><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><b>immediately on acceptance</b>, with</div><div><br></div><div><b>ACCEPTANCE-DATE</b> tagged</div><div><b>JOURNAL-NAME</b> tagged</div><div><b>FUNDER-NAME</b> tagged</div><div><b>grant-number/name</b> field filled</div></blockquote><div><br></div>On no account offload or divide any of this responsibility with publishers, otherwise <div>compliance will become and unmanageable, unmeasurable and confused failure.<div><br></div><div>(The Wellcome Trust's emphasis and reliance on Gold publishers for compliance </div><div>has been responsible for years of OA shortfall for over 50% of annual Wellcome-funded research. </div><div>The Trust is only beginning to remedy this chronic non-compliance. It's better for other</div><div>funders and institutions to learn from the Trust's mistakes rather than to repeat them at</div><div>the cost of still more years of lost OA: OA mandates and OA-provision are a matter between</div><div>the research community and itself. Apart from whatever OA embargoes the funder of institution</div><div>allows, publishers have absolutely nothing to do with it.)</div><div><div><br></div><div>Stevan Harnad<br><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt">
Best<br>
Diana<br>
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On 05/11/2012 02:26, "Pablo de Castro" <<a href="x-msg://116/pcastromartin@GMAIL.COM"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "x-msg:" claiming to be</b></font> pcastromartin@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
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</span></font><blockquote><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt">Dear Stevan,<br>
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Thanks for this. <br>
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In fact, stressing the need for the IR network to enhance and harmonise their metadata in order to be able to provide information for consistently tracking Open Access outputs may be as important for getting IRs into the main Research Information Mgt picture as advocating for specifically-formulated Open Access policies, since their reliability as institutional reporting tools will thus get significantly strenghtened.<br>
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Besides EU FP7 OpenAIRE Project, the JISC-funded UK RepositoryNet+ (aka the RepNet) Project <a href="http://www.repositorynet.ac.uk/">http://www.repositorynet.ac.uk/</a> is also working for providing new services and tools to the UK repository network. Although currently very much focused on the so-called RepNet Wave 1 components (ie the R-J Broker service for automating content deposit into IRs and IRUS-UK project for delivering COUNTER-compliant cross-repository usage stats), the RepNet is also aiming to eventually provide a whole set of new repository services, including DOI-, funder- and grant-related metadata enhancement services, tools for monitoring funder mandate compliance rates and emphasis on promoting OpenAIRE-compatibility for UK IRs. See in this regard the "UK RepositoryNet+: Developing New Services over the UK Repository Network" poster at <a href="http://bit.ly/SQAXbC">http://bit.ly/SQAXbC</a>, to be displayed at the forthcoming Berlin10 Open Access Conference in Stellenbosch, South Africa.<br>
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The RepNet will also be delivering a comprehensive presentation next Fri at the UKCoRR annual meeting at Teesside University where the feedback of the IR manager community on the planned new repository services will be gathered and discussed.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Pablo<br>
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On 5 November 2012 01:00, JISC-REPOSITORIES automatic digest system <<a href="x-msg://116/LISTSERV@jiscmail.ac.uk">LISTSERV@jiscmail.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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Topics of the day:<br>
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1. The Importance of Repository EC- (OpenAire) and RCUK-Compliance Tags for<br>
Mandate Compliance Verification<br>
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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:32:19 -0500<br>
From: Stevan Harnad <<a href="x-msg://116/amsciforum@GMAIL.COM"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "x-msg:" claiming to be</b></font> amsciforum@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
Subject: The Importance of Repository EC- (OpenAire) and RCUK-Compliance Tags for Mandate Compliance Verification<br>
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It is extremely important for the success of both funder and institutional<br>
OA mandates worldwide that eprints, dspace and all other repositories be<br>
made compliant with funder harvesting requirements such as those of<br>
OpenAIRE<<a href="http://www.openaire.eu/">http://www.openaire.eu</a>> (as<br>
Eloy Rodrigues indicates in the passage appended after this message).<br>
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For deposit mandates to work, they need to have *a reliable and<br>
date-stamped compliance verification mechanism*.<br>
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*Plea to repository managers and software developers world-wide: *<br>
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This is the time to make sure that your repositories implement the<br>
requisite metadata tags for specifying the funding agency (US, EU or RCUK)<br>
as well as the article's journal acceptance date).<br>
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A system must be designed for ensuring that the mandate will actually be<br>
complied with, which means that there has to be an effective, timely<br>
monitoring mechanism, with swift feedback and consequences in case of<br>
non-compliance.<br>
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That means that immediate-deposit of full-text upon acceptance for<br>
publication has to be monitored continuously, based on authors' ongoing<br>
publication calendar dates not just retrospectively in 4-6-year batches.<br>
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If compliance is instead left to the the latter -- long-delayed<br>
retrospective batches -- then even the talk about a "6-12-month embargo"<br>
becomes meaningless! Embargos can only be observed if publication dates are<br>
observed, and hence if deposits, whether embargoed or unembargoed, are<br>
immediate. That's how deposit-date needs to be integrated into RCUK<br>
authors' annual work-flow, including the all-important date-stamping by the<br>
official date of the journal's letter of acceptance -- not the wildly<br>
varying and incalculable date on which the journal issue actually appears<br>
-- which is in turn often far from the calendar date of publication: as<br>
much as a year or more at times.)<br>
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The EC's and RCUK's mandates have to be integrated with institutional<br>
mandates so as to implement the following 8 shared conditions:<br>
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(1) *immediate-deposit* (even if access to the deposit is allowed to be<br>
embargoed):<br>
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(2) of the *final peer-reviewed draft*<br>
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(3) on the *date of acceptance* by the journal (which is marked by a<br>
verifiable calendar date-stamp)<br>
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(4) and the immediate-deposit must be directly in the *author's own<br>
institutional repository* (not institution-externally -- central<br>
repositories can harvest from IRs)<br>
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(5) so that immediate-deposit can be *monitored and verified by the<br>
author's institution* (regardless of whether the mandate is from a funder<br>
or the institution)<br>
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(6) as a *funding compliance condition* and/or an *institutional employment<br>
condition*<br>
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(7) and institutional repository must be designated as the *sole locus of<br>
deposit * for submitting publications for institutional performance<br>
evaluation, funder conditions and national research assessment.<br>
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(8) Repository deposits must be monitored so as to generate *rich and<br>
visible metrics of usage and citation* so as to verify and reward authors'<br>
deposits as well as to showcase and archive the institution's and funder's<br>
research output and impact.<br>
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An instance of mututally reinforcing funder and institutional policies is<br>
the FRS-FNRS <<a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/864-.html%3Epolicy">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/864-.html>policy</a><br>
in Belgium.<br>
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Best wishes,<br>
Stevan Harnad<br>
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*On 2012-11-04, at 12:39 PM, "Eloy Rodrigues" [OpenAire] wrote:*<br>
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Hi Stevan,<br>
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I agree with the recommendations for compliance-verification for RCUK<br>
that I've seen in another message.<br>
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Regarding OpenAIRE we tried that our infrastructure helps/cooperate (and not<br>
compete) with the network of institutional repositories. We tried to have<br>
very "low barrier" guidelines for compliance (we are now calling<br>
compatibility), basically just requiring identification of the EC project<br>
and access status (Open Access, embargoed, closed) in a "standard" way.<br>
EC funded publications will be regularly harvested from compliant/compatible<br>
repositories. So, authors from institutions with compliant repositories,<br>
just need to deposit on their repository to comply to the EC policy. And<br>
even if an author goes to the OpenAIRE portal to deposit a publication, he<br>
will be re-directed to the repository of it's own institution.<br>
<br>
But unfortunately the number of compliant repositories is still not high<br>
enough (except on some southern countries like Portugal and Spain), and is<br>
particularly low in the UK...<br>
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Best,<br>
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