On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM, leo waaijers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:leowaa@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">leowaa@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    <font face="Arial">A good insight in OA versus non-OA publishing
      and, within OA, about Green versus Gold may be gained from a <a href="http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/10/124" target="_blank">recent
        BMC-article</a> &quot;Anatomy of open access publishing: a study of
      longitudinal development and internal structure&quot; bij Mikael Laakso
      and Bo-Christer Björk. <br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That Laakso &amp; <span style="font-family:Arial">Björk </span>article calculates the annual proportion of articles indexed by WoS and SCOPUS that are published in Gold OA journals (about 12% in 2011). (An additional 5% defined as &quot;delayed Gold,&quot; embargoed for up to a year, seems to be credited to the wrong year: An article is only OA when it is OA.)</div>
<div><br></div><div>L &amp; B provide no evidence about Green versus Gold (so I&#39;m not sure what insight Leo has in mind). Unmandated Green OA (24%) is at least twice annual Gold OA annually, and mandated Green OA (70%+) is six times annual Gold OA.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The only Green vs Gold insight I can discern in this is that universities and funders should mandate Green OA, now, instead of waiting for Gold OA -- or double-paying for Gold pre-emptively, as the Finch Report proposes doing (on the basis of the Finch Hypothesis that Green OA mandates are ineffective -- which is precisely what our new data refute...).</div>
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    <div>Op 28-10-2012 12:57, Stevan Harnad
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        <div>On 2012-10-28, at 6:44 AM, David Wojick &lt;<a href="mailto:dwojick@CRAIGELLACHIE.US" target="_blank">dwojick@CRAIGELLACHIE.US</a>&gt;
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            <div>Stevan, did you verify that the deposits were actual
              articles? In many cases the records counted by ROAR are
              metadata or other items. For example Cambridge is listed
              as very large but it has almost no articles. Does ROAR log
              actual articles separately? I have not seen that in their
              data but may have missed it.</div>
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        David, you are quite right to ask this question, and the answer
        is no:</div>
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        <div>1. <a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org" target="_blank">ROAR</a> does not yet
          have a reliable way to determine whether a deposit is the
          full-text of a refereed journal article or just the metadata
          (or some other kind of content).</div>
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        <div>2. However, we do have a robot that can sample and test
          that with <a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/262220/1/sigdet.gif" target="_blank">high
            accuracy</a>, and one natural follow-up study is to use the
          robot to estimate what proportion of repository content is
          full-text journal articles.</div>
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        <div>3. In a prior study we have already used the robot to
          confirm about  <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0013636" target="_blank">70%</a> full-text
          deposit for the oldest and strongest mandates.</div>
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        <div>4. Meanwhile, however, whatever that full-text percentage
          is globally, it seems reasonable to suppose that it is roughly
          the same across repositories: hence an increase in the average
          number of deposits means an increase in full-text deposits,
          whatever the average full-text percentage is.</div>
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        <div>5. The mandates in question are full-text deposit deposit
          mandates: <i>they are not fulfilled by depositing metadata
            alone (or other kinds of content).</i></div>
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        <div>6. Hence it seems reasonable to suppose that if the deposit
          rate is higher, the stronger the mandate, the increase is in
          full-text deposits, not just metadata (or other kinds of
          content), regardless of the baseline proportion of full-text
          across repositories.</div>
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        <div>7. To suppose otherwise would be to suppose a rather
          complicated and <i>ad hoc</i> form of bias: that the
          institutions which tend to adopt stronger Green OA mandates
          are also the institutions which tend to have higher deposit
          rates already -- and/or deposit rates with full-text ratios
          systematically different from the global average.</div>
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        <div>8. We did test for bias in <a href="http://www.webometrics.info" target="_blank">university webomtrics
            rankings</a> associated with mandate strength, but found
          none.</div>
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      <div>(You are quite right about the enormous number of deposits
        -- <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">216,692</span>,
        mostly not articles -- in the <a href="http://roar.eprints.org/390/" target="_blank">Cambridge repository</a>. This
        did not enter into our analysis because (a) Cambridge has no
        mandate at all. Moreover, (b) Cambridge does not rank highly in
        the <a href="http://roar.eprints.org/cgi/roar_search/advanced?location_country=&amp;software=&amp;type=institutional&amp;order=-activity_medium/-date" target="_blank">medium
          deposit rate</a> ranking that ROAR considers most closely
        matched to annual university article output: This suggests that
        Cambridge is uploading huge batches of some sort of data rarely,
        rather than regularly depositing approximately the number of
        articles that universities produce across the year.)</div>
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              On Oct 27, 2012, at 11:58 PM, Stevan Harnad &lt;<a href="mailto:amsciforum@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">amsciforum@GMAIL.COM</a>&gt;
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              On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:44 PM, CHARLES OPPENHEIM <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:c.oppenheim@btinternet.com" target="_blank">c.oppenheim@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                        <div><span>This is a significant and important
                            set of findings, which should be forwarded
                            on to decision-makers, both in Universities
                            and in funding agencies.</span></div>
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                            like this, please Stevan</span></div>
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                        <div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Professor
                          Charles Oppenheim</div>
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                  <div>More on the way. </div>
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                  <div>But meanwhile, OA advocates, <i>please do
                      forward these findings on mandate strength to
                      decision-makers at your university and funding
                      agencies</i>. </div>
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                  <div>It&#39;s now more important than ever to make sure
                    that OA policy decisions are evidence-based,
                    especially to counter the extensive negative effects
                    of the publishing lobby, as most dramatically
                    exerted very recently on the <a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/342580/1/harnad-cilip.pdf" target="_blank">Finch
                      Report and the resulting RCUK policy</a>.</div>
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                              <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                              Stevan Harnad &lt;<a href="mailto:amsciforum@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">amsciforum@GMAIL.COM</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                              <a href="mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" target="_blank">JISC-REPOSITORIES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK</a>
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                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                              Friday, 26 October 2012, 18:59<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                              OA Week: Testing the Finch Hypothesis on
                              Green OA Mandate Effectiveness<br>
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                              In June 2012, the UK Finch Committee made
                              the following statement:</div>
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                              <div style="margin:0px 0px 5px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em;min-height:1em"><i style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">&quot;The
                                  [Green OA] policies of neither
                                  research funders nor universities
                                  themselves have yet had a major effect
                                  in ensuring that researchers make
                                  their publications accessible in
                                  institutional repositories…&quot;</i> <b style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">[<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.researchinfonet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Finch-Group-report-FINAL-VERSION.pdf" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(228,105,3);font-weight:normal" target="_blank">Finch Committee
                                    Recommendation, June 2012</a>]</b><b style="background-color:transparent;font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline"> </b></div>
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                              We have now tested the Finch Hypothesis.
                              Using data from ROARMAP institutional
                              Green OA mandates and data from ROAR on
                              institutional repositories, we found that
                              deposit number and rate is significantly
                              correlated with mandate strength
                              (classified as 1-12): The stronger the
                              mandate, the more the deposits. The
                              strongest mandates generate deposit rates
                              of  70%+ within 2 years of adoption,
                              compared to the un-mandated deposit rate
                              of  20%. The effect is already detectable
                              at the national level, where the UK, which
                              has the largest proportion of Green OA
                              mandates, has a national OA rate of 35%,
                              compared to the global baseline of 25%.</div>
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                              </b>The conclusion is that, contrary to
                              the Finch Hypothesis, Green Open Access
                              Mandates <i style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">do</i> have
                              a major effect, and the stronger the
                              mandate, the stronger the effect (the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://roarmap.eprints.org/56/" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(228,105,3)" target="_blank">Liege ID/OA mandate</a>,
                              linked to research performance evaluation,
                              being the strongest mandate model). <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/RCUK%20_Policy_on_Access_to_Research_Outputs.pdf" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(228,105,3)" target="_blank">RCUK</a> (as well as all
                              universities, research institutions and
                              research funders worldwide) would be well
                              advised to adopt the strongest Green OA
                              mandates and to integrate institutional
                              and funder mandates.</div>
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                              The findings are in the link below. <i>Discussion
                                invited!</i></div>
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                                  Yassine</span>, <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">Lariviere,
                                  Vincent</span>, <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">Gingras,
                                  Yves</span>, <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">Brody,
                                  Tim</span>, <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">Carr,
                                  Les</span> and <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">Harnad,
                                  Stevan</span></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em"> </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">(2012)</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em"> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/344687/" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(228,105,3)" target="_blank">Testing the Finch
                                  Hypothesis on Green OA Mandate
                                  Effectiveness</a></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em">.</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em"> </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-size:1em"><i>Open
                                  Access Week 2012</i></span></div>
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