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title="ELSEVIER FUNDING BODY AGREEMENTS & POLICIES">ELSEVIER FUNDING
BODY AGREEMENTS & POLICIES says in its second paragraph:<br>
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</span>"The agreements and policies are intended to support the needs
of Elsevier authors, editors and society publishing partners, and to
protect the quality and integrity of the peer-review process"<br>
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Does it mean that the $3,000 serve to pay the insurance of the "quality
and integrity of peer review? what if others do not pay? quality and
integrity is not protected? of course not, the quality and integrity
is given by authors, reviewers and scientific editors, who, generally
belong to academic and research institutions.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi
Garrett,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It
depends on the funding body – I’m not clear which specific funding
council you have in mind. Those we already have agreements with are
described here:
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href="http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/fundingbodyagreements">http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/fundingbodyagreements</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">With
kind wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alicia<i><o:p></o:p></i></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org">mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Garret McMahon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Re: Why should publishers agree to Green OA?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alicia,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is the first time I've heard mention of
Elsevier's Green OA policy predicated on an institutional mandate. Up
to now, IR deposit of the author's peer-reviewed accepted draft on
acceptance for publication has been central to funding council policies
on OA. Are you saying that deposit on that basis alone contravenes
Elsevier's position in the absence of an institutional OA policy?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Garret McMahon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Queen's University Belfast<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 20 June 2012 08:53, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF)
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:A.Wise@elsevier.com"
target="_blank">A.Wise@elsevier.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi
all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Just
a quick point of clarification…. Elsevier doesn’t forbid posting if
there is a mandate. We ask for an agreement with the institution that
has the mandate, and there is no cost for these agreements. The
purpose of these agreements is to work out a win-win solution to find a
way for the underlying journals in which academics choose to publish to
be sustainable even if there are high posting rates. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">With
kind wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alicia</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);">Dr
Alicia Wise</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);">Director
of Universal Access</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span
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The Boulevard I Langford Lane I Kidlington I Oxford I OX5 1GB</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span
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@wisealic</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org"
target="_blank">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a> [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:goal-bounces@eprints.org"
target="_blank">goal-bounces@eprints.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Murray-Rust<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GOAL] Why should publishers agree to Green OA?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">I have some simple questions about
Green OA. I don't know the answers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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* is there any *contractual* relationship between a Green-publisher and
any legal body? Or is Green simply a permission granted unilaterally by
publishers when they feel like it, and withdrawable when they don't.<br>
* if Green starts impacting on publishers' revenues (and I understand
this is part of the Green strategy - when we have 100% Green then
publishers will have to change) what stops them simply withdrawing the
permission? Or rationing it? Or any other anti-Green measure<br>
* Do publishers receive any funding from anywhere for allowing Green?
Green is extra work for them - why should they increase the amount they
do?<br>
* Is there any body which regularly "negotiates" with publishers such
as ACS, who categorically forbid Green for now and for ever.<br>
<br>
Various publishers seem to indicate that they will allow Green as long
as it's a relatively small percentage. But, as Stevan has noted, if
your institution mandates Green, then Elsevier forbids it. So I cannot
see why, if Green were to reach - say - 50%, the publishers wouldn't
simply ration it and prevent 100%. <br>
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Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry<br>
University of Cambridge<br>
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