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lang=EN-US>Europe which is probably going to be not-so-affluent, in reason of
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lang=EN-US>It is highly probable that in a near future, when money is not
generously provided by governments for research libraries, that a lot of
researchers in Europe and worldwide will be happy to get an OA article, even if
it is only a draft, and even after an embargo period. </SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-US>can be easily and rapidly provided for and by researchers living
in rich, poor and future-poor countries, and it helps the
progress of science. </SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-US>Spending time to contest a 10 years definition seems me a quarrel of
spoilt children in a schoolyard.</SPAN></P>
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face=Arial>Hélène Bosc<BR>Open Access to Scientific Communication<BR><A
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=subbiah_a@yahoo.com href="mailto:subbiah_a@yahoo.com">Subbiah
Arunachalam</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=goal@eprints.org
href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">Global Open Access List (Successor of
AmSci)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [GOAL] Re: Meaning of Open
Access</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>As someone living and working in a not-so-affluent country, I know
the value of gratis access to the journal literature of science and
scholarship. Let us not keep quibbling over definitions. What should guide us
now is the speed with which we can bring as much of the literature as possible
into the domain of gratis access. And by that yardstick Green OA seems to be
the best option. Believe me as we approach 100% Green OA, the rest of all you
want will follow.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Arun </SPAN></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Richard Poynder
<ricky@richardpoynder.co.uk><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> goal@eprints.org <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, 9 May 2012,
23:59<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [GOAL] Re:
Meaning of Open Access<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>So what is really at issue is
whether Green Gratis OA is indeed not<BR>"meaningful" enough to warrant
"lowering the bar" in order to mandate it.<BR><BR>According to
Jan, it is not.<BR><BR>According to me, it most definitely is: in fact, it is
the first and<BR>foremost reason for providing OA at all.<BR><BR>What do other
GOAL and JISC readers think?<BR><BR>>><BR><BR>There are times when the
best that can be achieved is that people agree to<BR>disagree. I think this is
one of those times.<BR><BR>Richard
Poynder<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>GOAL
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