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<p class="MsoNormal">[SH] PM-R keeps reiterating that Gratis OA is
not enough, <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>but he takes
no practical account of the fact
that we don't even have Gratis OA, that Gratis OA is within reach,
via mandates,
and that more than Gratis OA is not within reach.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">One of the points I take away from David
Willetts’ speech to
the Publishers Association last week is that, whether one welcomes
it or not,
the UK government has decided that scientific open data is an
issue that it
needs to take an interest in, and to facilitate. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>As
Willetts put it,
“Data mining is becoming an important part of scientific advance,
with computer
scientists working collaboratively with researchers and publishers
to develop
the necessary tools and technologies. With well over a million
academic
articles every year, researchers wanting to keep abreast of
developments in
their field are going to need analytic tools just to know where to
start. There
are proven benefits for humankind from text and data mining, such
as the
discovery of new treatments for Alzheimer’s. So we are considering
how to
advance UK capability in data mining in the light of the
recommendations on
intellectual property from Ian Hargreaves.” <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This suggests to me that effective text and
data mining
could be within reach, and the UK government seems intent on
providing a ladder
to allow researchers reach it. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think it is probably also fair to assume that
other
governments, and funders, will begin to take a similar position. <span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As always, the danger is that governments might
misunderstand the issues, and provide the wrong type of ladder.
For that
reason, the more clearly the research community understands
exactly what it
needs, and articulates those needs, the more likely it is that any
ladder<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>that governments
provide will prove fit for
purpose.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Richard Poynder<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 08/05/2012 11:50, Stevan Harnad wrote:
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cite="mid:24C08304-7DFD-42C5-BE98-DFB92CE8E13D@ecs.soton.ac.uk"
type="cite">For the perplexed reader:
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<div>1. Peter Murray-Rust is a dedicated advocate for certain
text-mining and</div>
<div>re-use rights that are very important and very fruitful in
certain fields</div>
<div>of research (but not all, and probably not many).</div>
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<div>2. One of the necessary conditions for the kind of
text-mining and</div>
<div>re-use rights PM-R seeks is free online access to the
articles</div>
<div>(Gratis OA).</div>
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<div>3. We do not yet have Gratis OA, because authors are not
providing</div>
<div>it, partly out of sluggishness and partly out of fear (see
Keith</div>
<div>Jeffery's posting on publisher FUD), even though
virtually all authors </div>
<div>want Gratis OA and even though the majority of journals
(including </div>
<div>almost all the top journals in almost all fields) already
endorse their </div>
<div>authors providing immediate Gratis OA by self-archiving their
refereed</div>
<div>final drafts in their institutional repository (Green Gratis
OA).</div>
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<div>4. Only about 20% of articles are being made Gratis OA
(because</div>
<div>of author sluggishness and fear of FUD) even though over 60% </div>
<div>of journals endorse immediate Green Gratis OA, 90% endorse
it </div>
<div>after an embargo, and user needs during the embargo can be
fulfilled </div>
<div>via "Almost-OA" using the institutional repositories'
semi-automatic </div>
<div>email-eprint-request Button.</div>
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<div>5. Research institutions and funders are in a position to</div>
<div>mandate (require) Green Gratis OA, as the remedy for author</div>
<div>sluggishness and fear of FUD, which would immediately</div>
<div>generate at least 60% immediate Green Gratis OA, plus 40%</div>
<div>embargoed OA and Almost-OA.</div>
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<div>PM-R keeps reiterating that Gratis OA is not enough, </div>
<div>but he takes no practical account of the fact that we don't </div>
<div>even have Gratis OA, that Gratis OA is within reach, via </div>
<div>mandates, and that more than Gratis OAis not within reach.</div>
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<div>We would be at an OA impasse if grasping the Green</div>
<div>Gratis OA that is already within immediate reach of</div>
<div>Green Gratis OA mandates is discouraged as not being</div>
<div>enough, because it does not meet all the potential needs</div>
<div>of some fields.</div>
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<div>Whatever you call it, "Libre OA" or Gratis OA plus certain</div>
<div>further re-use rights is not within reach today. Publishers
oppose</div>
<div>it and it is not at all clear whether all, many, or most
authors</div>
<div>want it -- but it is clear that only 20% of authors are
providing</div>
<div>even just Gratis OA.</div>
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<div>Hence immediate burden of the OA movement is not, as PM-R </div>
<div>suggests, to gather evidence as to how many authors need and </div>
<div>want the further re-use rights PM-R seeks. Nor is there any
practical </div>
<div>strategy for mandating the further re-use rights PM-R seeks.</div>
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<div>The immediate priority is to mandate the Green Gratis</div>
<div>OA that is already within reach -- and that also happens</div>
<div>to be a necessary condition for the further re-use rights
PM-R </div>
<div>seeks.</div>
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<div>I urge PM-R to stop arguing that Gratis OA is not enough,</div>
<div>and that what is needed instead is Gratis OA plus certain </div>
<div>further re-use rights.</div>
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<div>Stop letting the out-of-reach best get in the way of </div>
<div>grasping the within reach better.</div>
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<div>We'll all end up a lot better off that way.</div>
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<div>Stevan Harnad</div>
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