<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">No flames, Peter. I said researcher -- not institutionally affiliated researcher.<div><br><div>Researchers are the ones most researcher is written for: to be used,</div><div>applied and built upon.<br><div><br></div><div>And I also said that health-related research was one of the special exceptions</div><div>where public access is indeed desired and needed. </div><div><br></div><div>But health-related research is not representative of most scientific and scholarly </div><div>research. </div><div><br></div><div>Hence it is not reason enough to induce researchers bother to make their </div><div>research OA (or their institution bother to mandate it).</div><div><br></div><div>Maximizing research access for those intended to use and build upon is.</div><div><br></div><div>(And no one said anyone was a second class citizen.)</div><div><br></div><div>Peace.</div><div><br><div><div>On 2012-03-28, at 4:18 PM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Stevan Harnad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 ..8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Some comments on Richard Poynder's interview of Mike Rossner in "Open & Shut"<br>
<a href="http://poynder.blogspot.ca/2012/03/rups-mike-rossner-doing-whats-right.html" target="_blank">http://poynder.blogspot.ca/2012/03/rups-mike-rossner-doing-whats-right.html</a><br>
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Practically speaking, public access (i.e., free online access to research,<br>
for everyone) includes researcher access (free online access to research<br>
for researchers).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Moreover, free online access to research, for everyone, includes both public<br>
access and researcher access.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>I do not wish to start a flame war on this list, but to distinguish "public" and researcher" is totally unacceptable to me. I have worked as a scientist for 15 years outside academia and I am not a second class citizen. There are many outside academia who are every bit as good scientists as those inside - they pay the taxes which pay research and pay library subscriptions.<br>
<br></div>There are people who would be dead if they could not have read the medical literature - fortuitously because they happened to be employed by a university. <br><br>P.<br clear="all"></div><br>-- <br>Peter Murray-Rust<br>
Reader in Molecular Informatics<br>Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry<br>University of Cambridge<br>CB2 1EW, UK<br>+44-1223-763069<br>
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