[GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

WALK Paul P.Walk at ed.ac.uk
Wed May 18 15:06:18 BST 2016 

Yes - this is exactly the point.

For example, the fact that the University of Bath has a Pure instance is mentioned by Ross below - but I believe that Bath also operates an ePrints service as its institutional repository.

I did hear recently that the only institution in the UK which actually uses Pure as it main institutional repository is my own institution, the University of Edinburgh.

Paul

> On 18 May 2016, at 14:37, David Prosser <david.prosser at rluk.ac.uk> wrote:
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> Isn’t there a distinction between the use of PURE as a CRIS system and PURE as a repository.  I get the feeling the former is much more common than the latter and only the latter will appear in OpenDOAR.
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> David
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>> On 18 May 2016, at 15:20, Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Jessica (et al.),
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>> I guess it depends which list you read. 
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>> Elsevier's own list boasts over 200 PURE implementations at different institutions including 28 in the UK: https://www.elsevier.com/solutions/pure/who-uses-pure/clients
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>> Even Elsevier's list isn't complete. I know for a fact that for instance that the University of Bath uses PURE http://www.bath.ac.uk/ris/pure/ and yet this doesnt appear on Elsevier's list, nor OpenDOAR.
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>> OpenDOAR is a registry run by people with close links to EPrints & DSpace. It's no surprise then that EPrints and DSpace are well registered within OpenDOAR.
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>> Time to remove the blinkers. PURE is much more prevalent than you'd think from a glance at OpenDOAR.
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>> On 18 May 2016 at 13:08, Jessica Lindholm <jessica.lindholm at chalmers.se> wrote:
>> Hi Ross (et al.),
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>> Out of curiosity I had to check the amount of Pure instances as you mentioned that many institutional repositories run on Pure.
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>> Checking openDOAR’s registry of repositories (http://www.opendoar.org/) I find 16 PURE-repositories listed, whereas e.g. Eprints has +400 instances and DSpace has +1300 instances. However I am not at all sure to what degree openDOAR is containing exhaustive data (or rather I am quite sure it doesn’t) -it is either lacking data about PURE instances – or if not, I do not agree that they are many..
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>> Regards
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>> Jessica  Lindholm
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>> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Ross Mounce
>> Sent: den 17 maj 2016 22:54
>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal at eprints.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
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>> Elsevier have actually done a really good job of infiltrating institutional repositories too:
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>> http://rossmounce.co.uk/2013/01/25/elseviers-growing-monopoly-of-ip-in-academia/
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>> They bought Atira back in 2012 which created PURE which is the software that many of world's institutional repositories run on.
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>> I presume it reports back all information to Elsevier so they can further monetise academic IP.
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>> Best,
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>> Ross
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>> On 17 May 2016 at 21:22, Joachim SCHOPFEL <joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr> wrote:
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>> Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional repositories worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the green institutional repositories can be replaced by other solutions, can't they ? Better solutions, more functionalities, more added value, more efficient, better connected to databases and gold/hybrid journals etc. 
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>> ----- Mail d'origine -----
>> De: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum at gmail.com>
>> À: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal at eprints.org>
>> Envoyé: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:18 +0200 (CEST)
>> Objet: Re: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
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>> Shame on SSRN.
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>> Of course we know exactly why Elsevier acquired SSRN (and Mendeley):
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>> It's to retain their stranglehold over a domain (peer-reviewed scholarly/scientific research publishing) in which they are no longer needed, and in which they would not even have been able to gain as much as a foothold if it had been born digital, instead of being inherited as a legacy from an obsolete Gutenberg era.
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>> I don't know about Arxiv (needless centralization and its concentrated expenses are always vulnerabe to faux-benign take-overs) but what's sure is that the distributed network of Green institutional repositories worldwide  is not for sale, and that is their strength...
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>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Bo-Christer Björk <bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi> wrote:
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>> This is an interesting news item which should interest the
>> readers of this list. Let's hope arXiv is not for sale.
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>> Bo-Christer Björk
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>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
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>> Message from Mike Jensen, SSRN Chairman
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>> Tue, 17 May 2016 07:40:29 -0400 (EDT)
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>> Michael C. Jensen <admin at ssrn.com>
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>> Reply-To:
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>> support at ssrn.com
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>> bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi
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>> Dear SSRN Authors,
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>> SSRN announced today that it has changed ownership. SSRN is
>> joining Mendeley and Elsevier
>> to coordinate our development and delivery of new products and
>> services, and we look forward to our new access to data, products,
>> and additional resources that this change facilitates. (See Gregg
>> Gordon’s Elsevier
>> Connect post)
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>> Like SSRN, Mendeley and Elsevier are focused on creating tools
>> that enhance researcher workflow and productivity. SSRN has been
>> at the forefront of on-line sharing of working papers. We are
>> committed to continue our innovation and this change will enable
>> that to happen more quickly. SSRN will benefit from access to the
>> vast new data and resources available, including Mendeley’s
>> reference management and personal library management tools, their
>> new researcher profile capabilities, and social networking
>> features. Importantly, we will also have new access for SSRN
>> members to authoritative performance measurement tools such as
>> those powered by Scopus and
>> Newsflo
>> (a global media tracking tool). In addition, SSRN, Mendeley and
>> Elsevier together can cooperatively build bridges to close the
>> divide between the previously separate worlds and workflows of
>> working papers and published papers.
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>> We realize that this change may create some concerns about the
>> intentions of a legacy publisher acquiring an open-access working
>> paper repository. I shared this concern. But after much discussion
>> about this matter and others in determining if Mendeley and
>> Elsevier would be a good home for SSRN, I am convinced that they
>> would be good stewards of our mission. And our copyright policies
>> are not in conflict -- our policy has always been to host only
>> papers that do not infringe on copyrights. I expect we will have
>> some conflicts as we align our interests, but I believe those will
>> be surmountable.
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>> Until recently I was convinced that the SSRN community was best
>> served being a stand-alone entity. But in evaluating our future in
>> the evolving landscape, I came to believe that SSRN would benefit
>> from being more interconnected and with the resources available
>> from a larger organization. For example, there is scale in systems
>> administration and security, and SSRN can provide more value to
>> users with access to more data and resources.
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>> On a personal note, it has been an honor to be involved over the
>> past 25 years in the founding and growth of the SSRN website and
>> the incredible community of authors, researchers and institutions
>> that has made this all possible. I consider it one of my great
>> accomplishments in life. The community would not have been
>> successful without the commitment of so many of you who have
>> contributed in so many ways. I am proud of the community we have
>> created, and I invite you to continue your involvement and support
>> in this effort.
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>> The staff at SSRN are all staying (including Gregg Gordon, CEO and
>> myself), the Rochester office is still in place, it will still be
>> free to upload and download papers, and we remain committed to
>> “Tomorrow’s Research Today”. I look forward to and am committed to
>> a successful transition and to another great 25 years for the SSRN
>> community that rivals the first.
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>> Michael C. Jensen
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