[GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
Isidro F. Aguillo
isidro.aguillo at cchs.csic.es
Wed May 18 14:41:23 BST 2016
Hi all,
Jessica is right, the number of PURE instances as PUBLIC repositories
are still low, but probably the number of them as CLOSED CRIS managers
is probably higher (although still not very large). The problem is there
is a tendency to use CRIS (managed by burocrats) instead of OA IRs
(managed by librarians) as commercial people is selling systems like
PURE also as good repository managers. In my personal view PURE design
is greenOA killer as deposit it is not its primary aim (not required).
Why authors are supporting the move to PURE? Probably the same reason
they are depositing far more in ResearchGate or Academia than in the
GreenOA IRs: Ugly interfaces, no profiles, useless metrics, ...
Your turn,
On 18/05/2016 15:01, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote:
> Thank you for checking this.
>
> However, numbers do not tell the whole story. Elsevier,
> Thomson-Reuters, Springer, etc... behave strategically. Like good
> military leaders, they constantly try and test to see what sticks and
> works. For the moment, Pure's presence is small, but the parent
> company learns through this limited presence, and it obviously studies
> ways to make it more appealing to the repository community.
>
> This reminds me of ScholarOne as deployed by Thomson-Reuters.
> Scielo-Brazil had trouble marking its articles in a suitable XML
> format, and did it largely by hand. When Scielo did all it could to be
> included in the Web of Science, they were also "offered" the use of
> Scholar One. Now their work flow is dependent upon this software tool
> to such an extent that moving out of Scholar One will be very costly.
>
> This reminds me also of the recent report by the NSF which, for the
> first time, relies on Scopus rather than the Web of Science. Elsevier
> is getting closer to the the old dream first entertained by Robert
> Maxwell when he tried to coax the Science Citation Index out of Eugene
> Garfield's hands, so as to be both judge and party in the evaluation
> of journals. Reading how they gloat about this is also instructive:
> https://www.elsevier.com/connect/tracking-progress-in-us-science-and-engineering
> .
>
> We, in the OA community, have been rather naive about the ways in
> which power works and how it it is wielded. We had better wise up, and
> fast.
>
> But thank you again, Jessica, for doing the checking.
>
> --
> Jean-Claude Guédon
> Professeur titulaire
> Littérature comparée
> Université de Montréal
>
> Le mercredi 18 mai 2016 à 12:08 +0000, Jessica Lindholm a écrit :
>> Hi Ross (et al.), Out of curiosity I had to check the amount of Pure
>> instances as you mentioned that many institutional repositories run
>> on Pure. Checking openDOAR’s registry of repositories
>> (http://www.opendoar.org/) I find 16 PURE-repositories listed,
>> whereas e.g. Eprints has +400 instances and DSpace has +1300
>> instances. However I am not at all sure to what degree openDOAR is
>> containing exhaustive data (or rather I am quite sure it doesn’t) -it
>> is either lacking data about PURE instances – or if not, I do not
>> agree that they are many.. Regards Jessica Lindholm *From:*
>> goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Ross Mounce *Sent:* den 17 maj 2016 22:54 *To:* Global Open
>> Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal at eprints.org> *Subject:* Re:
>> [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
>> Elsevier have actually done a really good job of
>> infiltrating institutional repositories too:
>> http://rossmounce.co.uk/2013/01/25/elseviers-growing-monopoly-of-ip-in-academia/
>
>> They bought Atira back in 2012 which created PURE which is the
>> software that many of world's institutional repositories run on.
>> I presume it reports back all information to Elsevier so they can
>> further monetise academic IP.
>> Best,
>> Ross
>> On 17 May 2016 at 21:22, Joachim SCHOPFEL
>> <joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr
>> <mailto:joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr>> wrote:
>>
>> Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional repositories
>> worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the green institutional
>> repositories can be replaced by other solutions, can't they ?
>> Better solutions, more functionalities, more added value, more
>> efficient, better connected to databases and gold/hybrid journals
>> etc.
>>
>> ----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Stevan Harnad
>> <amsciforum at gmail.com <mailto:amsciforum at gmail.com>> À: Global
>> Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal at eprints.org
>> <mailto:goal at eprints.org>> Envoyé: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:18
>> +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
>>
>> Shame on SSRN.
>>
>> Of course we know exactly why Elsevier acquired SSRN (and Mendeley):
>>
>> It's to retain their stranglehold over a domain (peer-reviewed
>> scholarly/scientific research publishing) in which they are no
>> longer needed, and in which they would not even have been able to
>> gain as much as a foothold if it had been born digital, instead
>> of being inherited as a legacy from an obsolete Gutenberg era.
>>
>> I don't know about Arxiv (needless centralization and its
>> concentrated expenses are always vulnerabe to faux-benign
>> take-overs) but what's sure is that the distributed network of
>> Green institutional repositories worldwide is not for sale, and
>> that is their strength...
>>
>> Stevan Harnad
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Bo-Christer Björk
>> <bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi
>> <mailto:bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi>> wrote:
>>
>> This is an interesting news item which should interest the
>> readers of this list. Let's hope arXiv is not for sale.
>> Bo-Christer Björk
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> *Subject:*
>> Message from Mike Jensen, SSRN Chairman
>> *Date:*
>> Tue, 17 May 2016 07:40:29 -0400 (EDT)
>> *From:*
>> Michael C. Jensen <admin at ssrn.com> <mailto:admin at ssrn.com>
>> *Reply-To:*
>> support at ssrn.com <mailto:support at ssrn.com>
>> *To:*
>> bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi
>> <mailto:bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi>
>>
>> Web Bug from
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>>
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>>
>> Dear SSRN Authors,
>>
>> SSRN announced today that it has changed ownership. SSRN is
>> joining Mendeley <https://www.mendeley.com/?signout>
>> andElsevier <https://www.elsevier.com> to coordinate our
>> development and delivery of new products and services, and we
>> look forward to our new access to data, products, and
>> additional resources that this change facilitates. (See Gregg
>> Gordon’s Elsevier
>> <https://www.elsevier.com/connect/ssrn-the-leading-social-science-and-humanities-repository-and-online-community-joins-elsevier>
>> Connect
>> <https://www.elsevier.com/connect/ssrn-the-leading-social-science-and-humanities-repository-and-online-community-joins-elsevier>
>> post)
>>
>> Like SSRN, Mendeley and Elsevier are focused on creating
>> tools that enhance researcher workflow and productivity. SSRN
>> has been at the forefront of on-line sharing of working
>> papers. We are committed to continue our innovation and this
>> change will enable that to happen more quickly. SSRN will
>> benefit from access to the vast new data and resources
>> available, including Mendeley’s reference management and
>> personal library management tools, their new researcher
>> profile capabilities, and social networking features.
>> Importantly, we will also have new access for SSRN members to
>> authoritative performance measurement tools such as those
>> powered by Scopus <https://www.elsevier.com/solutions/scopus>
>> and Newsflo
>> <http://hq.ssrn.com/GroupProcesses/RedirectClick.cfm?partid=2338421&corid=4024&runid=15740&url=http://www.newsflo.net>
>> (a global media tracking tool). In addition, SSRN, Mendeley
>> and Elsevier together can cooperatively build bridges to
>> close the divide between the previously separate worlds and
>> workflows of working papers and published papers.
>>
>> We realize that this change may create some concerns about
>> the intentions of a legacy publisher acquiring an open-access
>> working paper repository. I shared this concern. But after
>> much discussion about this matter and others in determining
>> if Mendeley and Elsevier would be a good home for SSRN, I am
>> convinced that they would be good stewards of our mission.
>> And our copyright policies are not in conflict -- our policy
>> has always been to host only papers that do not infringe on
>> copyrights. I expect we will have some conflicts as we align
>> our interests, but I believe those will be surmountable.
>>
>> Until recently I was convinced that the SSRN community was
>> best served being a stand-alone entity. But in evaluating our
>> future in the evolving landscape, I came to believe that SSRN
>> would benefit from being more interconnected and with the
>> resources available from a larger organization. For example,
>> there is scale in systems administration and security, and
>> SSRN can provide more value to users with access to more data
>> and resources.
>>
>> On a personal note, it has been an honor to be involved over
>> the past 25 years in the founding and growth of the SSRN
>> website and the incredible community of authors, researchers
>> and institutions that has made this all possible. I consider
>> it one of my great accomplishments in life. The community
>> would not have been successful without the commitment of so
>> many of you who have contributed in so many ways. I am proud
>> of the community we have created, and I invite you to
>> continue your involvement and support in this effort.
>>
>> The staff at SSRN are all staying (including Gregg Gordon,
>> CEO and myself), the Rochester office is still in place, it
>> will still be free to upload and download papers, and we
>> remain committed to “Tomorrow’s Research Today”. I look
>> forward to and am committed to a successful transition and to
>> another great 25 years for the SSRN community that rivals the
>> first.
>>
>> Michael C. Jensen
>>
>> Founder & Chairman, SSRN
>>
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