[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

[Stevan Harnad]

Just to add that I too agree completely with Chris and Jan. Éric (perhaps
out of legal or commercial caution) responded to Beall in a polite deadpan
style, but Beall's posting cannot be described as anything less that
outrageous. A tendentious public query about undeclared interests coupled
with a gratuitous insinuation of racism.

Stevan

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Jan Velterop <velterop at gmail.com> wrote:

> All I want to say is that I agree wholeheartedly with Chris. He definitely
> isn't the only one to be outraged.
>
> Johannes (Jan) J M Velterop
>
> Sent from Jan Velterop's iPhone. Please excuse for brevity and typos.
>
> On 3 Oct 2015, at 11:32, Chris Zielinski <ziggytheblue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have no personal involvement in this issue (other than being aghast when
> SciELO appeared on the List of Predatory Journals recently - it now seems
> to have been removed, after multiple protests) and don't know any of the
> participants personally, but I can't be the only one who finds this post
> from Beall outrageous, with its insinuations that Archambault has a
> financial motive for his post, and may be racist. Archambault's reply is
> far, far too polite!
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Zielinski
> chris at chriszielinski.com
> Blogs: http://ziggytheblue.wordpress.com and
> http://ziggytheblue.tumblr.com
> Research publications: http://www.researchgate.net
>
> On 2 October 2015 at 15:55, Beall, Jeffrey <Jeffrey.Beall at ucdenver.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Eric:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have two questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. For the record, does your for-profit business or do you personally
>> have any business relationship with any of the publishers or journals on my
>> lists? If so, which ones?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. In your email you refer to a recently-published article, and you name
>> and discuss the second author, but you fail to mention or credit the lead
>> and corresponding author, Cenyu Shen. Was this because of his race?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Beall
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Éric Archambault
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 7:38 AM
>> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci <goal at eprints.org>
>> *Subject:* [GOAL] Need for a new beginning
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear list members:
>>
>> What started as a one-man, useful list that identified “Potential,
>> possible, or probable predatory scholarly open-access publishers”, which
>> Jeffrey himself further qualifies as a “list of questionable, scholarly
>> open-access publishers”, has now overshot its usefulness. We need a new
>> beginning.
>>
>> If these publishers are questionable, let’s find a mechanism to question
>> them, and let’s, at the very least, document their answers. Currently, this
>> list of
>>
>> Release Date: 10/01/15
>>
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