[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

[Jan Velterop]

All I want to say is that I agree wholeheartedly with Chris. He definitely isn't the only one to be outraged. 

Johannes (Jan) J M Velterop

Sent from Jan Velterop's iPhone. Please excuse for brevity and typos. 

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 11:32, Chris Zielinski <ziggytheblue at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have no personal involvement in this issue (other than being aghast when SciELO appeared on the List of Predatory Journals recently - it now seems to have been removed, after multiple protests) and don't know any of the participants personally, but I can't be the only one who finds this post from Beall outrageous, with its insinuations that Archambault has a financial motive for his post, and may be racist. Archambault's reply is far, far too polite!
> 
> Chris
> Chris Zielinski
> chris at chriszielinski.com
> Blogs: http://ziggytheblue.wordpress.com and http://ziggytheblue.tumblr.com 
> Research publications: http://www.researchgate.net
> 
>> On 2 October 2015 at 15:55, Beall, Jeffrey <Jeffrey.Beall at ucdenver.edu> wrote:
>> Eric:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have two questions.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 1. For the record, does your for-profit business or do you personally have any business relationship with any of the publishers or journals on my lists? If so, which ones?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2. In your email you refer to a recently-published article, and you name and discuss the second author, but you fail to mention or credit the lead and corresponding author, Cenyu Shen. Was this because of his race?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeffrey Beall
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Éric Archambault
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:38 AM
>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci <goal at eprints.org>
>> Subject: [GOAL] Need for a new beginning
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dear list members:
>> 
>> What started as a one-man, useful list that identified “Potential, possible, or probable predatory scholarly open-access publishers”, which Jeffrey himself further qualifies as a “list of questionable, scholarly open-access publishers”, has now overshot its usefulness. We need a new beginning.
>> 
>> If these publishers are questionable, let’s find a mechanism to question them, and let’s, at the very least, document their answers. Currently, this list of
>> 
>> Release Date: 10/01/15
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> GOAL mailing list
>> GOAL at eprints.org
>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GOAL mailing list
> GOAL at eprints.org
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/attachments/20151003/263ce5cb/attachment.html