[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning
Éric Archambault
eric.archambault at science-metrix.com
Fri Oct 2 18:37:42 BST 2015
Jeffrey
Fairly straightforward:
1. None, and from neither of the for profit companies I preside (though for full disclosure I'd really hope they'd be more profitable but just as the other shareholder, I do prefer treating clients and employees generously and this weighs heavily in the balance).
2. I couldn't say I admire the work by Cenyu Shen as I have no knowledge of the work of this author outside of this paper.
My point here was not to criticize Björk- I truly think what he does is essential to our understanding of OA, and besides I'm not immune myself to missing out on the potential consequences of the use of concepts in reports, papers and posts. Nor do I dispute here the initial usefulness of your list. My point is that if extremely smart, knowledgeable people make inappropriate use of a work of one's opinion, then we need a tool that has a more robust scholarly foundation. You're extremely well positioned to suggest ways to move forward towards a more robust list, one that would be based on a participatory process. I should hope you'll contribute positively to the exercise.
Cordially
Eric
On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:59, Beall, Jeffrey <Jeffrey.Beall at ucdenver.edu<mailto:Jeffrey.Beall at ucdenver.edu>> wrote:
Eric:
I have two questions.
1. For the record, does your for-profit business or do you personally have any business relationship with any of the publishers or journals on my lists? If so, which ones?
2. In your email you refer to a recently-published article, and you name and discuss the second author, but you fail to mention or credit the lead and corresponding author, Cenyu Shen. Was this because of his race?
Jeffrey Beall
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Subject: [GOAL] Need for a new beginning
Dear list members:
What started as a one-man, useful list that identified "Potential, possible, or probable predatory scholarly open-access publishers", which Jeffrey himself further qualifies as a "list of questionable, scholarly open-access publishers", has now overshot its usefulness. We need a new beginning.
If these publishers are questionable, let's find a mechanism to question them, and let's, at the very least, document their answers. Currently, this list of
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