[GOAL] Re: More RE: Positive example: Springer ... is the Royal Society a better example?

[Éric Archambault]

Hi Dana

My point wasn't that Springer was a saint, nor the best.

That said, thanks for sharing this.  It's useful to mention best practices, alongside bad practices.

Eric Archambault
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On May 27, 2015, at 17:44, Dana Roth <dzrlib at library.caltech.edu<mailto:dzrlib at library.caltech.edu>> wrote:

The Royal Society has had a 'transparent-pricing' policy, since 2012, that accounts for income, from  'author-pays' open access articles, in setting future subscription rates.

See:  http://royalsocietypublishing.org/librarians/transparent-pricing


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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Positive example: Springer

Eric,

What is the significance of 0.8% (83/10,429) ?
What useful metrics can you draw from that ?
Why would Springer deserve a kudo ? Just for "transparency"?
What's new if it becomes clear that double-dipping means taking underfunded academic institutions for a ride ?

Greetings,

Bernard
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Le 27 mai 2015 à 00:53, Éric Archambault <eric.archambault at science-metrix.com<mailto:eric.archambault at science-metrix.com>> a écrit :
Dear all
Yesterday I was complaining about the fact that journals were not transparent about their gold à la pièce.
Here is an example of a positive step in the right direction:
http://link.springer.com/journal/10645
Here, one can see clearly what the OA papers are, and one can calculate the proportion of Gold to locked papers.
The stats for this journal reveals that 83/10,429 papers are gold à la pièce (aka hybrid).
This helps library determine if they are taken for a ride (i.e. with double dipping).
I'll see whether and how Science-Metrix could start monitoring these journals to see how much more they get cited (or less, as this is a hypothesis!) - this would show the golden benefits to scientific publishers.
Well, Kudo to Springer! The company should definitely be congratulated for leading the way among the big three, it is the least afraid of embracing OA, the most transparent, and likely to be coming out on top following the transition to OA (which certainly won't be a simple flip, as Stevan said, rather a Escher impossible-figure, an evolutionarily unstable strategy. As Schumpeter said, these are certainly gales of creative destruction, and let's hope that more progressive publishers such as Springer destroy the market share of dinosaurs!).
Éric Archambault
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