[GOAL] Re: Fwd: [open-science] PeerLibrary is searching for volunteers

[Mitar]

Hi!

Sorry, because I am not familiar with the discussion about CC-BY
requirement for OA. Can you summarize it or link to a relevant
discussion for me to get up to the speed? Is this a discussion about
OA also having to allow also reuse of papers and no just gratis
access? Does CC-BY discussion differs from CC-SA-BY discussion? Or
CC-0 zero discussion?

> If OA advocates are pushing for policies requiring CC-BY to facilitate the development of initiatives like PeerLibrary, that is a different matter. This is one of the reasons I oppose policies requiring CC-BY.

You are saying that you are opposing initiatives which would make
papers more accessible to the general public and try to organize them
through a community effort?

Thank you for explaining your questions about PeerLibrary, they were
not clear to me from your previous e-mail.


Mitar


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Heather Morrison
<Heather.Morrison at uottawa.ca> wrote:
> Thank you for your comments, Mitar. My question has more to do with whether some in the open access community see this kind of initiative as the purpose of OA, and the justification for efforts to force all scholars and open access journals to use the CC-BY.
>
> If this is the point of CC-BY, then I think we need to have a discussion about the implications and desirability of this kind of project.
>
> If people wish to voluntarily participate in PeerLibrary or similar projects, that is their right.
>
> If OA advocates are pushing for policies requiring CC-BY to facilitate the development of initiatives like PeerLibrary, that is a different matter. This is one of the reasons I oppose policies requiring CC-BY.
>
> best,
>
> Heather Morrison
>
>
>
>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:28 AM, "Mitar" <mmitar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Mitar here. One of contributors to the PeerLibrary project. I would
>> like to address comments made about the project.
>>
>>> My own perspective is that the user name "general crap" (I'm not making this up, it's copied from the PeerLibrary collection) says it all.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Names of collections can be made by any user. This is the idea behind
>> community operated site. Maybe names reflect the site, maybe the
>> content in the collection. Who knows. ;-) The site is still in
>> development so I would agree that some parts of it are like that. But,
>> this is a normal thing when one is trying to build a free software
>> alternative to current closed platforms. Not everything can be done
>> well immediately.
>>
>> But if you have more concrete feedback to give us, please. We love
>> feedback (both positive or negative) so that we can guide our
>> development. It is free software (AGPL licensed) and you can also open
>> tickets (we prefer tickets so that they are archived as part of the
>> development process and that the community  can be involved in them,
>> but I would not want to move discussion away from this list and this
>> community):
>>
>> https://github.com/peerlibrary/peerlibrary
>>
>>> It might be worth noting that one of the partners behind PeerLibrary, Mendeley, is owned by Elsevier.
>>
>> Just to be clear. PeerLibrary is completely independent project from
>> Mendeley. We are planing to use their API so that users can access
>> their data they have made in Mendeley with an open platform. And their
>> API license is CC-BY, so to satisfy their attribution requirement we
>> put the logo on the about page, just to be clear of any issues, not
>> wanting to argue if their data can be CC-BY licensed at all to being
>> with.
>>
>> Because this feature is not yet implemented at all and because it is
>> signaling the wrong message (as I am seeing), I have removed logo for
>> now:
>>
>> https://github.com/peerlibrary/peerlibrary/commit/c031be9fecdb1a349a20d622e831a6f1df5c209d
>>
>> Thank you for pointing it out.
>>
>> If you are interested in learning more about the team and motivations
>> behind the project, I am inviting you to see this video we made:
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/93085636
>>
>>
>> Mitar
>>
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