[GOAL] FW: Oxford University Press's descent into FUD

Mon Oct 6 19:31:43 BST 2014

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From: Repositories discussion list [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK]
On Behalf Of Joseph Greene
Sent: 06 October 2014 14:31
To: JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Oxford University Press's descent into FUD

Just wanted to add to this that we heard the following back from Oxford
regarding book chapters recently (14 August 2014):

Authors are permitted to place up to 10% of their contribution to an edited
book (providing that this does not exceed 1,000 contiguous words) in an
institutional repository without requiring permission.  For information on
our author reuse policy please follow this link:

 <http://www.oup.co.uk/academic/rights/permissions/AutPerm/>
http://www.oup.co.uk/academic/rights/permissions/AutPerm/

10% of a chapter? We take this as effectively no OA on book chapters. In the
past they have allowed us to archive chapters (with permission). Makes my
job easier (a ‘no’ policy is better than ‘no policy’), but it’s a pity for
the humanities.

Re. the Romeo colours
 they also find their way via the API into various
CRIS systems. This gives the impression to some administrators that the
publisher policy problem is easily solved by using the Romeo API in the
CRIS, a sort of copyright silver bullet. But both green and blue can mean
either ‘post print’ or ’published version’. In my experience authors want to
know ‘can I upload the published version or not’ (the rare easy route) and
if not then ‘can I upload the postprint’ (maybe we should just hard-code
this into the interface ‘yes, you can always upload the postprint!). I
second a category system that says ‘post-print yes/no’—or if it has to be
more complex, matches only one category per version.

Joseph Greene

Research Repository Librarian

James Joyce Library

University College Dublin

(353 0)1 716 7398

joseph.greene at ucd.ie <mailto:joseph.greene at ucd.ie> 

http://researchrepository.ucd.ie <http://researchrepository.ucd.ie/> 

From: Stevan Harnad [mailto:harnad at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK] 
Sent: 03 October 2014 21:06
Subject: Oxford University Press's descent into FUD

On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Payne <D.Payne1 at LSE.AC.UK
<mailto:D.Payne1 at LSE.AC.UK> > wrote:

Incidentally, I've just heard back from OUP regarding a book chapter
permission request I sent, who mentioned the following:

" We are currently reviewing our position on archiving and embargo periods,
so I wanted to wait for the updated policy document before advising you. It
is due out this month and I will get back to you as a priority."

So it seems OUP are also due for a change shortly.

OUP's policy was already worse than even CUP's current back-slid policy. No
news here except maybe what they mean to say about book chapters.

If you want to see the absurd smokescreen of parti-colored FUD that OUP has
launched to confuse and discourage authors, go to
http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php and enter oxford to see the
shameful mess.

Romeo is not without a share of the blame for this because they practically
invited publishers to do this by faithfully cataloguing every arbitrary whim
publishers toyed with including in their policies instead of refusing to
catalogue anything but the bare basics:

(1) Can the refereed preprint be made open access (Gratis) immediately or is
OA embargoed?

If yes, then the publisher (or journal) is GREEN.

If not the publisher (or journal) is GRAY.

(2) If OA is embargoed, how long: 3 mo? 6 mo? 12 mo? Longer?

That's all. All the Romeo colours are useless (and incoherent: blues if
green, green is green, yellow is gray, white is gray) and just encourage
everyone to spend their time doing chromatic fantasies instead depositing
articles. And the only Oxford/Romeo greens are paid Gold!

But the Liège Model  Mandate and the HEFCE/REF2020 Mandate trump all this
FUD and foolishness: Just deposit immediately upon acceptance in any case,
and then, if you have the inclination or the stomach to wade through the FUD
to decide whether and when when to make the deposit OA, go ahead. 

Meanwhile, either make it OA immediately or rely on the repository's
copy-request Button.

(Yech -- the look at the Romeo/Oxford search output is enough to elicit
reverse peristalsis and projectile emesis...)

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<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1115&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1634&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy I - Oxford Open Option D

White

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1634&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=16
34&letter=ALL> Journal list

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<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1633&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy I - Oxford Open Option G

White

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1633&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1116&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy J

Yellow

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1116&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1619&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy J - Oxford Open Option E

Yellow

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1619&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=16
19&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1117&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy K

Yellow

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1117&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1531&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy K - Oxford Open Option D

Yellow

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1531&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=15
31&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1618&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy K - Oxford Open Option E

Yellow

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1618&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=16
18&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1118&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy L

White

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1118&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1119&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy M

Yellow

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1119&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=11
19&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1121&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy N

White

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1121&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=11
21&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1120&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy O

White

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1120&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=11
20&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1336&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy P

Green

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1336&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=13
36&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1530&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy P - Oxford Open Option A

Green

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1530&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=15
30&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1337&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy Q

Blue

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1337&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=en&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&id=13
37&letter=ALL> Journal list

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1632&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy R

White

<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1632&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
&format=full> Special Policy

-
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=1635&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en
> Policy R - Oxford Open Option D

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