[GOAL] Re: Checking for Green access / no embargo

[Stevan Harnad]

On 2013-09-29, at 2:40 PM, LIBLICENSE <liblicense at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: "Pilch, Janice T" <pilch at illinois.edu>
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 03:16:50 +0000
> 
> Why shame? Isn't it rational not to pay for something if you can get
> it for free? Why have such persistent efforts been made to make
> journals free if the goal is still to pay for them?

For some reason it seems to be singularly difficult for some librarians
to grasp the difference between whether the articles in a journal are
all or mostly Green OA (which is not what we are discussing) and
whether the publisher does not embargo Green OA (which does not imply
that all or most of its articles are Green OA). 

In fact, over 60% of publishers (and an even greater percentage of
journals) do not embargo Green OA, yet only about 20-30% of
articles are Green OA (and no one has even shown whether more
of these come from journals that do not embargo Green OA).

So what were you saying about its being rational not to pay for something
you can get for free? And what has it to do with the point under 
discussion, which is cancelling journals because they do not embargo
Green OA?

Stevan Harnad


> 
> Janice Pilch
> Copyright and Licensing Librarian
> Rutgers University
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> From: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:36:23 +0200
> 
> The idea that SHERPA/Romeo, created as an index of publisher rights
> policies on author OA self-archiving should be used by librarians as a
> basis for journal cancellation is so absurd that it takes one's breath
> away.
> 
> Shame on the (I hope very small) segment of the library community that
> is thinking along these perverse lines -- though the fault is partly
> with SHERPA/Romeo itself, for trying to be all things to all people,
> instead of just providing authors with the essential information they
> need, as originally intended: Does the journal endorse immediate Green
> OA self-archiving or not? If not, how long an embargo does it request?
> 
> Stevan Harnad

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