[GOAL] Re: Checking for Green access / no embargo
Stevan Harnad
amsciforum at gmail.com
Wed Oct 9 12:00:44 BST 2013
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 Rick Anderson <rick.anderson at utah.edu> wrote:
*RA: *With all the subscriptions cancelled, how will publishers continue
>> to provide the services on which the Green OA model depends for its
>> viability?
>
>
> *SH: *By downsizing to just the provision of peer review, paid for per
>> round of refereeing. If not, their titles, ed-boards, authorships
>> and readerships will simply migrate to other, Fair-Gold publishers, who
>> will.
>
>
> *RA:*
*[1] *I'm not sure there's any reason to believe that a critical mass of
> authors wants things to go in this direction, and I'm quite certain that
> publishers don't want it to happen.
*[2]* Do you anticipate that funder mandates will grow in pervasiveness and
> coerciveness to such a point that they force it?
*[3]* Do you expect institutional OA policies eventually to morph from the
> "non-mandatory mandates" that are prevalent today into effectively
> mandatory ones? And if so, on what basis do you expect those things to
> happen?
>
1. Yes, I believe that effectively mandated Green OA, once it becomes
universal, will eventually make subscriptions unsustainable, and that
publishing will adapt to that new reality. (What authors and users and
institutions and funders and tax-payers want is OA. Mandating Green OA will
provide it. The premise that all subscriptions will be cancelled was yours,
in your query above: You asked what would happen next.)
2. Yes, I anticipate that funder mandates will grow in pervasiveness and
effectiveness to such a point that they make Green OA universal, and that
that in turn will make subscriptions unsustainable, forcing publishers to
downsize and convert to Fair Gold.
3. Yes, I expect institutional (and funder) OA policies to morph into
effectively mandatory ones -- in particular, the Liège/HEFCE model
immediate-deposit mandate, in which repository deposit immediately upon
acceptance for publication is mandatory, whether or not access to the
immediate-deposit is made immediately OA. This renders publisher OA
embargoes moot. Repository deposit is designated as the sole mechanism for
submitting publications for research performance assessment. Deposit and
timing can be effectively monitored by institutions. And the repository's
facilitated email-eprint-request Button allows individual users to request
and authors to provide a copy of embargoed deposits for research purposes
with one click each.
*Stevan Harnad*
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