[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK & Netherlands: Part I
Jean-Claude Guédon
jean.claude.guedon at umontreal.ca
Mon Nov 18 03:20:43 GMT 2013
Could we make sure that we do not use "Gold" too quickly as a synonym
for "author-pay Gold". I meet ever more frequently with this confusion
and I think it deeply affects the quality of our analyses and
strategies.
Jean-Claude Guédon
Le dimanche 17 novembre 2013 à 17:38 -0500, Peter Suber a écrit :
> I hope that Dutch researchers will seize the opportunity that
> Wouter Gerritsma describes, and save the Netherlands from repeating
> the mistake of the UK.
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> Note, however, that the Netherlands has flirted with gold OA mandates
> at least twice before, and in both cases prior to the Finch report in
> the UK.
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> 1. In a November 2009 interview, Henk Schmidt, Rector of Erasmus
> University Rotterdam, described his plans to require OA, with a
> preference for gold over green. "I intend obliging our researchers to
> circulate their articles publicly, for example no more than six months
> after publication. I'm aiming for 2011, if possible in collaboration
> with publishers via the 'Golden Road' and otherwise without the
> publishers via the 'Green Road'."
> http://web.archive.org/web/20100213075122/http://www.openaccess.nl/index.php?option=com_vipquotes&view=quote&id=30
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> However, in September 2010, he announced the university's new OA
> policy, which is green.
> http://rechtennieuws.nl/30283/als-je-niet-gelezen-wordt-bestaat-je-werk-niet-erasmus-universiteit-zet-in-op-open-access-publiceren.html
> http://roarmap.eprints.org/295/
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> 2. In January 2011, J.J. Engelen, Chairman of the NWO (Nederlandse
> Organisatie voor Wetenschappelijk Onderzoek), described his preference
> for a future gold OA policy. "These goals of scientic publishing are
> best reached by means of an open access publishing business
> model....Open access publishing should become a requirement for
> publicly funded research. In order to make open access publishing a
> success, the enthusiastic cooperation of the professional publishing
> companies active on the scientific market is highly desirable."
> http://dx.doi.org/10.3233/ISU-2011-0622
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> Peter
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> Peter Suber
> bit.ly/petersuber
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> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Gerritsma, Wouter
> <wouter.gerritsma at wur.nl> wrote:
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> @Stevan,
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> Yes Stevan the Dutch secretary of educationhis letter has
> quite a bit of the Finch tone in it. But there are also some
> opportunities in his letter for repositories. Dekker actually
> asks for exact figures on OA in the Netherlands.
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> "To obtain insight into the situation I request the
> universities, KNAW and NWO to provide numbers on Open Access
> publications through the various clearly defined variants of
> OA."
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> In the Netherlands we have of course Narcis
> http://www.narcis.nl already, a comprehensive repository of
> nearly all OA publications in the Netherlands. But counting OA
> publications only is not sufficient. That is a small mistake
> in Dekker his letter. What is less well known is that all
> Dutch universities have to report to ministry of Education all
> the scientific output as well. This happens through the VSNU
> http://www.vsnu.nl/files/documenten/Feiten_en_Cijfers/Scientific_Research_Agreed_Definitions__def_2011_IRRH-20110624.pdf
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> If due to this letter of Dekker it was decided that all
> reports on the output of the Dutch Science system to the
> ministry would be based on the full registration of all output
> registered in Narcis, on top of all OA publications it already
> registers, the underlying repositories would be in a much
> better position. If only Narcis takes up its responsibility
> and makes reports along the lines I did nearly 2 years ago
> http://wowter.net/2012/02/10/a-census-of-open-access-repositories-in-the-netherlands/ the repository infrastructure in the Netherlands would be reinforced as well.
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> So apart from the fact that OA is on the political agenda in
> the Netherlands, there is an important momentum for Dutch
> repositories to seize right now.
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> All the best
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> Wouter
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> Wouter Gerritsma
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> Team leader research support
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> Information Specialist – Bibliometrician
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> Wageningen UR Library
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> PO box 9100
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> 6700 HA Wageningen
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> The Netherlands
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> ++31 3174 83052
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> Wouter.gerritsma at wur.nl
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> wageningenur.nl/library
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> @wowter
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> wowter.net
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> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org
> [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Stevan Harnad
> Sent: zaterdag 16 november 2013 21:50
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Cc: LibLicense-L Discussion Forum; jisc-repositories
> Subject: [GOAL] The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK &
> Netherlands: Part I
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> The UK and the Netherlands -- not coincidentally, the home
> bases of Big Publishing for refereed research -- have issued
> coordinated statements in support of what cannot be described
> other than as a publisher's nocturnal fantasy, in the face of
> the unstoppable worldwide clamour for Open Access.
>
> Here are the components of the publishers' nocturnal:
>
> (1) Do whatever it takes to sustain or increase your current
> revenue streams.
>
> (2) Your current revenue streams come mainly from
> subscriptions.
>
> (3) Claim far and wide that everything has to be done to
> sustain publishers' subscription revenue, otherwise publishing
> will be destroyed, and with it so will peer review, and
> research itself.
>
> (4) With (3) as your justification, embargo Green OA
> self-archiving for as long as possible, and fight against
> Green OA self-archiving mandates -- or make sure allowable
> embargoes are as long as possible.
>
> (5) Profess a fervent commitment to a transition to full 100%
> immediate OA -- but Gold OA, on your terms, in such a way as
> to ensure that you sustain or increase your current revenue
> streams.
>
> (6) Offer hybrid Gold OA and promise not to "double-dip." That
> will ensure that your subscription revenues segue seamlessly
> into Gold OA revenues while maintaining their current levels.
>
> (7) To hasten the transition, offer even Bigger Big Deals to
> cover subscriptions at the national level (as you had always
> dreamt of doing) until all payment is safely converted (Gold)
> OA.
>
> (8) Encourage centralized, collective payment of Gold OA fees
> too, in even Bigger Deals, so Gold OA can continue to be
> treated as annual institutional -- preferably national --
> payments rather than as piecewise payments per individual
> article.
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> (9) Persuade governments to mandate, subsidize and prefer Gold
> OA rather than mandating Green OA
>
> (10) Make sure Green OA is perceived as delayed OA (because of
> your embargoes!), so that only Gold OA can be immediate.
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> (11) Mobilize the minority OA advocates who are in a great
> hurry for re-use rights (CC-BY, text-mining, republication) to
> support you in your promotion of Gold OA and demotion and
> embargoing of Green OA.
>
> (12) Cross your fingers and hope that the research community
> will be gullible enough to buy it all.
>
> There is, however, a compeletely effective prophylactic
> against this publisher fantasy (but it has to be adopted by
> the research community, because British and Dutch Ministers
> are apparently too vulnerable to the publishing lobby):
>
>
> (a) Research funders and institutions worldwide adopt
> an immediate-deposit mandate, requiring, as a
> condition of funding, employment and evaluation, that
> all researchers deposit their final, peer-reviewed
> drafts in their institutional repositories immediately
> upon acceptance for publication, regardless of whether
> they are published in a subscription journal or a Gold
> OA journal -- and regardless of whether access to the
> deposit is made Green OA immediately or only after a
> publisher embargo.
>
> (b) Do not mandate or designate any extra money to pay
> for Gold OA: let that come from the subscription
> cancellation savings -- if and when Green OA actually
> releases institutions to cancel subscriptions.
>
> (c) To tide over research access needs during any
> embargo, make sure to implement the institutional
> repository's automated copy-request Button so that any
> user can request -- and any author can provide -- a
> single copy for research purposes with just one click
> each.
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> Now please read how fully the Dutch government fell for the
> publishing lobby's nocturnal fantasy. (Tomorrow you will see
> the same from the UK.)
>
> Here is a quick google translation of excerpts from Sander
> Dekker, Secretary of Education, Culture and Science,
> Netherlands on "Commitment to further developments in open
> access scientific publication"
>
> Sander Dekker, Secretary of Education, Culture and Science,
> Netherlands:
>
> "A clear choice in favour of Open Access publications; the
> transition process provides the necessary speed and shortens
> the transition period, thus avoiding unnecessary additional
> costs... .
>
> "The Green road is the form in which the author publishes an
> article in a journal. In addition, the author deposits a
> version of the article in Open Access electronic archive
> ( repository ). There are both discipline-based and
> university-based repositories. The system of paid
> subscriptions to journals continues. Publishers often
> negotiate embargo periods that can range from several months
> to several years before an article can be made OA through a
> repository. During the embargo period, only the paid version
> of the journal accessible. This constitutes a source of
> revenue for publishers. Moreover, there are publisher
> restrictions on the version of an article in the repository.
> Sometimes this may only be the version that has not yet been
> peer reviewd...
>
> "Netherlands is in a special position because it has a number
> of major scientific publishers within its borders. That makes
> dialogue between science and the Dutch publishing possible...
>
> "In the UK, a national committee chaired by Dame Janet Finch
> laid the foundation for the Open Access policy of the United
> Kingdom. The report of the Commission Finch serves as a solid
> standard . It contains a thorough analysis of developments and
> progress. The Committee notes that due to the major changes it
> is imperative that all players act together and she advises to
> achieve by focusing on Open Access journals. Transition
> Following this advice, the British government earmarked 10
> million pounds for Open Access. The initial signs indicate
> that this has not led to an accelerated transition , but
> rather a continuation of the transition...
>
> "The transition to the Golden Road: My preference is for Open
> Access publishing in journals that make their articles
> accessible free, the Golden road. My aim is to achieve OA
> within ten years: a full transition to Open Access Golden Road
> by 2024. to achieve this, at least 60 percent of the
> scientific publications Open Access should be available in
> about five years through the Gold OA journals...
>
> "The real change can only be achieved if we work together at
> the international level with National cooperation and
> coordination equally important...
>
> "Open Access in the coming years: Dutch universities, KNAW and
> NWO should give priority to Open Access Golden road...
>
> "While the publishers have not yet made the transition to Open
> Access Golden road I prefer hybrid Open Access, where the
> institution pays for publication in a traditional journal...
>
> "For disciplines where the potential for Gold Open Access
> journals is still limited, it is possible to provide OA via
> the Green road...
>
> "1. Consultation with likeminded countries: I will get in
> touch with a number of like-minded countries to promote and
> acceleration Open Access. I refer primarily to the United
> Kingdom and Germany . This is because there are a large number
> of important commercial and academic publishers in the
> Netherlands and in these two countries i. In addition,
> Denmark, Finland, Belgium and France are leading like-minded
> countries...
>
> "2. Create conditions under which open access possible: An
> important momentum in the transition to Open Access
> publications when the scientific organizations and major
> scientific publishers agree on subscriptions to scientific
> journals . This 'big deals' always apply for some years…."
>
> "3. reports: If the parties concerned are not sufficiently
> committed , or developments in insufficient progress , the
> minister and I imagine that the obligation to publish Gold OA
> to be included in the Law on Higher Education in 2016 Open
> Access and Research Act (WHW )…."
>
> Sander Dekker, Secretary of Education, Culture and Science,
> Netherlands
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Jean-Claude Guédon
Professeur titulaire
Littérature comparée
Université de Montréal
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