[GOAL] Re: Rockefeller University Press: CC-BY is not essential for Open Access

[Hans Pfeiffenberger]

Am 13.03.13 07:52, schrieb Richard Poynder:
>
> "RUP has no current plans to become an OA publisher, ....
>
> As a publisher of "selective" journals, our cost per article is 
> higher than the current standards for APCs for immediate access, 
> even the $5,000 fee that is now charged by some journals."
>
A non-OA publisher, which seems to suffer from/enjoys ridiculous 
cost/income per article should not be given voice in this discussion.
There are simply journals which can ask whatever they want (money, 
rights,..) and will get it (Nature, Science,...)

_Forget about them_ - as long as the authors may publish their 
manuscripts with an embargo of 6/12 months max.
And the authors should retain (from their publishers / by law) the 
right to put whatever license on those manuscripts.

Regarding CC-BY-NC and RUP's assertion that "it still achieves the 
funding agencies' goal of reuse of content for text and data mining." 
I wonder wether it is true for, say, Google (Scholar)?  If I put an 
*explicit* NC clause in any license on a web resource: may Google 
index and list it? Only on pages *not* enhancing their revenue, i.e. 
without advertising? Or not on any of their pages, since money loosing 
services may still enhance the brand ...

I think only specialized lawyers can answer that - and then probably 
just for one jurisdiction. Is RUP's Rossner a specialist of that kind? 
On how many jurisdictions? Or is it just wishful thinking on his part, 
because he wants to maintain maximum control over what publishers see 
as their property?

Hans
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/attachments/20130313/aa8c1a5d/attachment.html