[GOAL] Re: Please distinguish what is and is not relevant to mandating Green OA self-archiving

[Jean-Claude Guédon]

No quarrel with all this. I just wanted to point out that an OA journal,
technically, is very close to a repository, at least at its basic level.
Modular functions can be added, of course, but they can also move across
platforms without much trouble. As for the vocabulary: repository,
archive, depository, whatever... We might want to make this terminology
a bit more rigorous, but it is not a major issue Imho.

Incidentally, from what I have just said, it is not difficult to
understand why I believe that OA journals and repositories will converge
(mixing and matching). I see the emergence of mega-journals as a potent
sign of this.

Best,

Jean-Claude Guédon



Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 11:42 +1100, Arthur Sale a écrit :

> I think we are now getting into an off-target area: not open access but
> archiving. It is really unfortunate that open access repositories were ever
> called archives.
> 
> Heather is right. In the past print publishers of books and journals just
> had to print them onto papyrus, vellum, or paper, using a non-ephemeral ink,
> and rely on dissemination (and libraries) to do the preservation.
> Preservation in the digital era is a different matter, having to cope with
> ephemeral media and error-resistant information (the opposite of the
> Gutenberg era). But this is not central open access stuff, important though
> it is.
> 
> Of course, to forestall comment by someone who wants to carp, the lifetime
> of research outputs does vary. In some disciplines it is of the order of a
> year or two on average, in others perhaps of centuries, to use the extremes.
> 
> Arthur Sale
> Tasmania, Australia
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf
> Of Heather Morrison
> Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 10:11 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Please distinguish what is and is not relevant to
> mandating Green OA self-archiving
> 
> On 20-Jan-13, at 2:25 PM, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: (excerpt)
> 
> Some forms of Gold do not require any more payment than what is needed to
> maintain a repository. In fact, an OA Gold journal is a repository of its
> own articles.
> 
> Comment: a gold OA journal serves as a repository, however it is important
> to understand that any journal, or the open access status of a journal, may
> be ephemeral in nature. Journals are archived and preserved by libraries,
> not by journals and publishers. This is important to understand because gold
> open access without open access archives is highly vulnerable. Journals can
> simply disappear, or be sold by open access publishers to toll access
> publishers. For this reason I argue that open access archives are absolutely
> essential to sustainable open access.
> 
> best,
> 
> Heather
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Jean-Claude Guédon
Professeur titulaire
Littérature comparée
Université de Montréal

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