[GOAL] Re: RCUK policy: relationship between green and CC-BY-NC

[Hans Pfeiffenberger]

Am 01.02.13 22:59, schrieb Peter Murray-Rust:
> But publishers need to prevent innovation from people like me as it 
> threatens their "ownership of content". 
...
> And the product will be an order of magnitude more valuable than any 
> current closed scientific databases. The results will be fully 
> semantic with recall/precision perhaps 50%.
I can't wait to see it! And indeed, Google started with two people 
having a good idea and not even a garage.
Prevailing legal practises in academic publishing are designed to 
prevent similar success from happening.

Am 02.02.13 02:02, schrieb Arthur Sale:
>
> I have called it the Titanium Road to emphasise that it is based on 
> social networking rather than mandates
>
ResearchGate is not built on mandates but on SPAMing: I joined for 
testing purposes half a year ago and have received 150 mails from them 
meanwhile.
> Does it make money from something? Probably, but not from selling 
> articles. This is murky, as are many issues in OA.
I would not think that "commercial re-use" is limited to an outright 
(re-)selling of articles.
This "murky-ness" of the term, is key: As long as Peter is doing his 
thing on research grants, the clause
> provided non-commercial re-use such as text and data mining is supported
may protect him. But what if he tried the obvious and recover some 
money through premium services for, say, the pharmaceutical industry? 
(He might be forced some time in the future to do so by funds drying 
up our cost shooting through his institution's roof)

best,

Hans


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