[GOAL] Re: Open Access in the UK: Reinventing the Big Deal
Sally Morris
sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
Sun Oct 7 14:18:42 BST 2012
It's my impression that it's not researchers per se (they like publishing in
journals, and reading articles with a journal 'label', with all the signals
that carries), but rather their cash-strapped librarians, who are
increasingly likely to be tempted by the (apparently) free 'alternative' to
journals if and when it offers them all or most of the literature their
users want. And that's what, understandably, scares publishers - and some
of the usage patterns shown up by recent studies can only fuel their
anxieties. Publishers are not against enabling the largest possible number
of people to read the content they publish - what they are against is being
forced out of business.
But the underlying problem is the inevitably growing gap between libraries'
funding and the cost of providing access to anywhere near all the literature
their users might want. This is not publishers' fault - it is simply the
result of the growth in research funding, which far outstrips the growth (if
any) in library funding. That's what makes the Gold OA model so attractive
to me - in well-funded research areas, at least, it has the potential to
scale with research funding.
But even then, the global total cost of publication is bound to continue to
rise. I suspect none of us has yet come up with a sufficiently radical new
model for providing the services that researchers want, both as authors and
as readers, in a way that is both affordable for the beneficiaries and
worthwhile for the service providers. That doesn't mean to say there isn't
a fantastic new model out there - I certainly hope there is! But personally
I don't think Green OA is it.
Sally
Sally Morris
South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK BN13 3UU
Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286
Email: sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
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From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf
Of Stevan Harnad
Sent: 07 October 2012 13:29
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Cc: jisc-repositories
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Open Access in the UK: Reinventing the Big Deal
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Sally Morris
<sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Stevan overlooks the difference between 'publishing' an article in a
repository and in a journal. As long as researchers prefer the latter (and
there are lots of reasons why they seem to, in addition to peer review) then
there will be a demand for journals in which to publish: selection and
collecting together of articles of particular relevance to a given audience,
and of a certain range of quality; 'findability'; kudos of the journal's
title (and impact factor); copy-editing; linking; quality of
presentation; etc etc...
And peer review is in any case not a contextless operation. The selection
of articles for publication in journal X is a relative matter; not just 'is
the research soundly conducted and honestly reported?' but 'is it of
sufficient relevance, interest and value to our readers in particular?'
I completely agree with Sally about peer review (it is a decision by
qualified specialists about whether a paper meets a journal's established
standards for quality as well as subject matter, as certified by the
journal's title and track-record), and I explicitly say so in the longer
commentaries of which I only posted an excerpt.
But that, of course, does not change a thing about the fact that peer review
is merely a service, that can be unbundled from the many other products and
services with which it is currently co-bundled. It certainly does not imply
that in order for referees or editors to make a decision about journal
subject matter, there has to exist a set of articles co-bundled in a monthly
or quarterly collection, sold together as a product, online or on-paper!
As to the rest of the co-bundled products and services Sally mentions: If
she's right, then journals have nothing to fear from Green OA mandates,
since those only apply to the author's peer-reviewed, revised, accepted
final draft. That's what's self-archived in the author's institutional
repository. If all those other products and services are so important, then
reaching 100% Green OA globally will not make subscriptions unsustainable,
because the need, and hence the market, for all those other co-bundled
products and services Sally mentioned will still be there.
The only difference will be that all users -- not just subscribers -- will
have access to all peer-reviewed, revised, accepted final drafts. (That's
Green OA, and once we are there, I can stop wasting my time and energy
trying to get us there, as I have been doing for nearly 20 years now!)
But then can I ask Sally, please, to call off her fellow publishers who have
been relentlessly (and successfully) lobbying BIS not to mandate Green OA,
and have been imposing embargoes on Green OA, on the (rather incoherent)
argument that (1) Green OA is inadequate for researchers' needs and has
already proved to be a failure and (2) that if Green OA succeeded it would
destroy publishing, peer review, and research quality?
Otherwise this (incoherent) argument becomes something of a self-fulfilling
prophecy, and we have the Finch/RCUK fiasco to show for it.
Stevan Harnad
Sally
Sally Morris
South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK BN13 3UU
Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286
Email: sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
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From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf
Of Stevan Harnad
Sent: 06 October 2012 23:12
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Open Access in the UK: Reinventing the Big Deal
Publisher Wheeling and Dealing: Open Access Via National and Global
McNopoly?
Excerpted from more extensive comments on the Poynder/Velterop Interview
<http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/942-.html> here and
<http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/943-.html> here.
Jan Velterop: a shift to an author-side payment for the service of
arranging peer review and publication is a logical one
The service of arranging peer review I understand.
But whats the rest? Whats Arranging publication? Once a paper has been
peer-reviewed, revised and accepted, whats left for publishers to do (for a
fee) that authors cant do for free (by depositing the peer-reviewed,
revised, accepted paper in their institutional repository)?
And how to get there, from here -- and at a fair price for just peer review
alone? Publishers wont unbundle, downsize and renounce revenue until
theres no more market for the extras and their costs and Green OA is what
will put paid to that market. Pre-emptive Gold payment, while subscriptions
are still being paid, will not and especially not hybrid Gold.
JV: Hybrid OA doesnt exist. It is just gold OA. OA in a hybrid journal
is the same as OA in a fully OA journal for any given article.
Gold OA is indeed Gold OA whether the journal is hybrid or pure (and whether
the Gold is Gratis or CC-BY)
But hybrid does not refer to a kind of OA, it refers to a kind of journal:
the kind that charges both subscriptions and (optionally) Gold OA fees.
That kind of journal certainly exists; and they certainly can and do
double-dip. And thats certainly an expensive way to get (Gratis) Gold OA.
And the Finch/RCUK policy will certainly encourage many if not all journals
to go hybrid Gold, and publishers, to maximize their chances of making an
extra 6% revenue from the UK, will in turn jack up their Green embargoes
past RCUKs permissible limits.
JV: The double-dipping argument is a red herring. There's
a notion that
subscription prices should be proportional to the number of articles in a
journal. How would that work? There are journals with 100 subscribers
and
with thousands of subscribers [and] & 25 articles a year & 25 or more
articles a week.
Double-dipping is not about the number articles or subscribers a journal
has, but about charging subscriptions and, in addition, charging, per
article, for Gold OA. That has nothing to do with number of articles,
journals or subscribers: Its simply double-charging.
JV: The cost, and
revenue, of an individual article can only usefully
be
expressed as an average, and then probably company-wide. What would
otherwise be the situation for a loss-making hybrid journal that receives in
one year 10% of its articles as gold, and the next year only 2%? Impossible
to work out. A subscription system is inherently lacking in transparency
Nothing of the sort, and extremely simple, for a publisher who really does
not want to double-dip, but to give all excess back as a rebate:
Count the total number of articles, N, and the total subscription revenue,
S.
>From that you get the revenue per article: S/N.
Hybrid Gold OA income is than added to that total revenue (say, at a fee of
S/N per article).
That means that for k Gold OA articles, total hybrid journal revenue is S +
kS/N.
And if the journal really wants to reduce subscriptions proportionately, at
the end of the year, it simply sends a rebate to each subscribing
institution:
Suppose there are U subscribing institutions. Each one gets a year-end
rebate of kS/UN (regardless of the yearly value of k, S, U or N).
(Alternatively, if the journal wants to give back all of the rebate only to
the institutions that actually paid for the extra Gold, dont charge
subscribing institutions for Gold OA at all: But that approach shows most
clearly why and how this pre-emptive morphing scheme for a transition from
subscriptions to hybrid Gold to pure Gold is unscaleable and unsustainable,
hence incoherent. It is an Escher impossible figure, either way, because
collective subscriptions/memberships including McNopolies -- only make
sense for co-bundled incoming content; for individual pieces of outgoing
content the peer-review service costs must be paid by the individual piece.
There are at least 20,000 research-active institutions on the planet and at
least 25,000 peer-reviewed journals, publishing several million individual
articles per year. No basis or need --for a pre-emptive cartel/consortium
McNopoly.)
JV: If journals should reduce their subscription price when they get a
percentage of papers paid for as gold, what should happen if they lose the
same percentage (for completely different reasons) of subscriptions?
Less Gold the value of the year-end institutional rebate -- kS/UN is
less that year.
JV: What if a journal which decided to go hybrid has published a steady
amount of 50 articles a year for ages and all of a sudden attracts an extra
10 gold OA articles? By how much should it reduce its subscription price?
By exactly10S/50U per subscribing institution U.
JV: If an article is worth £2,000 to have published with OA in a full-OA
journal, why is it not worth the same £2,000 if published in a hybrid
journal?
Simple answer: its not worth the price either way. Both prices are
grotesquely inflated. No-fault peer review should cost about $100-200 per
round
Stevan Harnad
Excerpted from more extensive comments on the Poynder/Velterop Interview
<http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/942-.html> here and
<http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/943-.html> here.
On 2012-10-02, at 5:00 AM, Richard Poynder wrote:
Love it or loathe it, the recently announced Open Access policy from
Research Councils UK has certainly divided the OA movement. Despite
considerable criticism, however, RCUK has refused to amend its policy.
So what will be its long-term impact?
Critics fear that RCUK has opened the door to the reinvention of the Big
Deal. Pioneered by Academic Press in 1996, the Big Deal involves publishers
selling large bundles of electronic journals on multi-year contracts.
Initially embraced with enthusiasm, the Big Deal is widely loathed today.
However, currently drowned out by the hubbub of criticism, there are voices
that support the RCUK policy. Jan Velterop, for instance, believes it will
be good for Open Access.
Velterop also believes that the time is ripe for the creation of a New Big
Deal (NBD). The NBD would consist of a national licensing agreement that
provided researchers with free-at-the-point-of-use access to all the papers
sitting behind subscription paywalls, *plus* a national procurement
service that provided free-at-the-point-of-use OA publishing services for
researchers, allowing them to publish in OA journals without having to foot
the bill themselves.
Velterops views are not to be dismissed lightly. Former employee of
Elsevier, Springer and Nature, Velterop was one of the small group of people
who attended the 2001 Budapest meeting that saw the birth of the Open Access
movement, and he was instrumental in the early success of OA publisher
BioMed Central.
Moreover, during his time at Academic Press, Velterop was a co-architect of
the original Big Deal.
More on this, and a Q&A with Velterop, can be read here:
http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/open-access-in-uk-reinventing-big-deal
.html
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