[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Elsevier's query re: "positive things from publishers that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized"

Stevan Harnad amsciforum at gmail.com
Mon May 14 17:35:23 BST 2012


On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Sally Morris
<sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Sad that Alicia's request for comments on positive things publishers are
> doing has immediately turned into comments on what they should be doing.
>
> Do list members really not have it their hearts to find anything good about
> publishers' responses to the challenges of online publishing and open
> access?!  How depressing!

I did have plenty of good things to say when Elsevier declared that
they endorsed immediate, unembargoed Green OA self-archiving by their
authors in 2004:
http://bit.ly/ElsevAngels

And I've kept saying good things across the years since then until
Elsevier introduced the "you may if you wish but not if you must"
clause in 2011:
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/822-.html

And as soon as Elsevier retires that piece of self-contradictory
double-talk from their endorsement of author self-archiving I will
again have nothing but good things to say about Elsevier (on OA).

Stevan Harnad



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