[GOAL] Re: RCUK Open Access Feedback

[Jan Velterop]

I agree with Tim. Doesn't the 'NC' in CC-BY-NC just mean "I can't make money from it and I would resent it if you could" ?

Jan Velterop

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On 19 Mar 2012, at 11:37, Tim Brody wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 21:28 +0900, Andrew A. Adams wrote:
>> David Prosser wrote:
>>> Say I wanted to data mine 10,000 articles.  I'm at a university, but I am c=
>>> o-funded by a pharmaceutical company and there is a possibility that the re=
>>> search that I'm doing may result in a new drug discovery, which that compan=
>>> y will want to take to market.  The 10,000 articles are all 'open access', =
>>> but they are under CC-BY-NC-SA licenses.  What mechanism is there by which =
>>> I can contact all 10,000 authors and gain permission for my research?
>> 
>> 
>> The intent of CC-NC is that one cannot take the original material, re-mix it 
>> (or even just as-is) and sell the resulting new work. It does not mean that 
>> the information it contains cannot be used in a commercial setting, but that 
>> the expression it contains cannot be used in a commercial setting. A simple 
>> example is that a CC-NC licensed book cannot be recorded as an audio play 
>> which is then sold. If one makes an audio book it must be available for free. 
>> However, copies of a CC-NC book can be distributed to students who are paying 
>> for a course in English literature as one of the books studied.
> 
> I don't understand this concern about 'NC' (non-commercial). I
> understood that the "give-away open access literature" was given-away by
> authors precisely because the motivation for publishing publicly funded
> research is not for direct commercial gain. Instead, authors derive
> impact from others reading and citing their work.
> 
> If a company were to create and sell an audio version of a research work
> then that increases the author's impact. That doesn't preclude someone
> else creating a "for-free" audio version, nor readers accessing the
> original self-archived or gold-OA text version.
> 
> OA is not about anti-capitalism - if someone can take the "resource" (OA
> research literature), add value and re-sell it (with suitable
> attribution) then that can only be to the advantage of authors and
> readers.
> 
> -- 
> Tim Brody
> 
> School of Electronics and Computer Science
> University of Southampton
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