[GOAL] Re: Why should publishers agree to Green OA?

[Jan Velterop]

The mistake authors make is to 'pay' publishers for their services by transferring copyright. They should pay with money and get open access. Full open access, CC-BY. 

The reason why they pay is that they want services. Let's call those services 'formal publishing'. They don't need those services for the sake of distributing their papers. They can do that for free, in a repository, say, and with open access without any cost or hindrance. It's the way ArXiv works. 

But authors want/need more. They want formal publications, in a journal. So they 'buy' the services of a publisher to formalise their papers, with peer review and a journal 'badge'. The value of the 'badge' is often expressed as impact factor. 

Once the copyright has been transferred to the publisher, that publisher *is* a legitimate party in the discussion. 

So the solution is: don't ask a publisher (or anyone) for a service if you don't want to pay. And if you want a service and are prepared to pay, don't pay by transferring copyright, but just with plain old money. 

Jan Velterop

Sent from Jan Velterop's iPhone. Please excuse for brevity and typos. 

On 20 Jun 2012, at 14:29, "Andrew A. Adams" <aaa at meiji.ac.jp> wrote:

> 
> Alicia,
> 
> What on earth business is it of Elsevier what the arrangements I have with my 
> funding body or university? You are seriously overreaching in your arrogance 
> to presume to interfere. You either give me (i.e. all authors) the right to 
> make a green deposit or you don't. This overweening attitude of the academic 
> publishers - an intermediary and no more - in the field of scholarly 
> communications starts to beggar belief. I will not abide by any such 
> ridiculous terms or caveats regarding my relations with third parties, nor do 
> I advise anyone else to pay any attention whatsoever to this unbelievable FUD.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Professor Andrew A Adams                      aaa at meiji.ac.jp
> Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration,  and
> Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
> Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan       http://www.a-cubed.info/
> 
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