[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

Thu Jul 26 14:35:15 BST 2012

Is platinum effectively the same as green?

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On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:12, "Beall, Jeffrey" <Jeffrey.Beall at ucdenver.edu> wrote:

> I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 
> 
>    Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
>    No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access
> 
> This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant and worthy of a separate appellation. 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
> Auraria Library
> University of Colorado Denver
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Reckling, Falk, Dr.
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access
> 
> 
> I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> 
> Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good predictor of being successful in the long run)
> 
> a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
> http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
> 
> b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/
> 
> c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
> http://journals.iza.org/
> 
> d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now society based funding):
> http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
> 
> All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 
> 
> What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...
> 
> Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: http://peerj.com/ 
> 
> In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs ...
> 
> Best Falk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurtado at ed.ac.uk" <l.hurtado at ed.ac.uk>:
> 
>> The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
>> major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
>> scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
>> journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
>> it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription 
>> charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs 
>> (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
>> Humanities to cut their journals.
>> Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
>> pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
>> So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
>> Larry Hurtado
>> 
>> Quoting Jan Szczepanski <jan.szczepanski63 at gmail.com> on Wed, 25 Jul
>> 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
>> 
>>> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
>>> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
>>> 
>>> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/7/25  <l.hurtado at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
>>>> few days ago.
>>>> Larry Hurtado
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access <oa.openaccess at gmail.com> on Wed, 25 
>>>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>>>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research 
>>>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for 
>>>>> open access."
>>>>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template
>>>>> =rr_2col&view=article&articleId=1214091> Check it out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the 
>>>>> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an 
>>>>> "author-pays" business model. He feels inadequate attention in the 
>>>>> conversation has been given to the unique needs of humanities 
>>>>> scholarship, and why it may be harder for humanist scholars to 
>>>>> embrace open access based on the "author-pays" model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "There is no Public Library of History to match the phenomenally 
>>>>> successful Public Library of Science."
>>>>> .
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your comments are welcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary F. Daught
>>>>> Omega Alpha | Open Access
>>>>> Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and 
>>>>> theology http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com oa.openaccess @ 
>>>>> gmail.com | @OAopenaccess
>>>>> 
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>> Emeritus Professor of New Testament Language, Literature & Theology 
>> Honorary Professorial Fellow New College (School of Divinity) 
>> University of Edinburgh Mound Place Edinburgh, UK. EH1 2LX Office 
>> Phone:  (0)131 650 8920. FAX:  (0)131 650 7952 www.ed.ac.uk/divinity
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