[GOAL] Re: Finding a business model for a growing Open AccessJournal

Fri Jul 20 11:08:29 BST 2012

Hi Larry,

Günter Stock, the new president of the European Federation of National
Academies of Sciences and Humanities, addresses your concerns in a
conversation with Neelie Kroes on the new EU measures on Open Access.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1M6hMBbaDM&feature=youtu.be

See for an excellent blogpost by Neelie Kroes on the new measures:
http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/open-science/

Best regards,
Esther Hoorn

On 20-7-2012 11:41, Laurent Romary wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> Thanks a lot for your message signaling the situation in the humanities. This is exactly to this end that alternative models to the green-gold yoke have been put in place in such platforms as openedition-revues.org (which I guess you're aware of). We need a little bit more creativity on the scholarly side if we actually want to see our results openly disseminated.
> Have a read at: http://www.openedition.org/8873
> Laurent
> PS: Marin Dacos, the master mind behind openedition
>
> Le 20 juil. 2012 à 11:13, l.hurtado at ed.ac.uk a écrit :
>
>> I'm President of my UK learned society, and have had no contact about  
>> the Finch project or anything connected with scholarly publishing.   
>> So, I'm not confident that the scholarly community has been involved  
>> adequately in the Finch process (though I stand to be corrected).
>> From what little I've learned thus far of the "Gold OA" proposal, I'm  
>> worried, particularly for two constituencies:
>> --The models all seem heavily driven by the problems and practices of  
>> the sciences, with little regard for the Humanities.  We don't (never  
>> have) paid page charges.  Our journals aren't typically expensive at  
>> all (an "expensive" journal might cost a univ library a few hundred  
>> quid at most, and that would be rare).  We don't typically have  
>> research grants to pay page charges (the govts typically don't see  
>> Humanities research as important enough to fund it in any measure  
>> other than token).
>> --There are a number of private scholars in the Humanities who don't  
>> hold Univ posts but produce high-quality work.  Who will pay their  
>> page charges?
>>
>> In short, once again, the Humanities seem to have been left largely  
>> out of the thinking about consequences of the various models.
>>
>> Larry Hurtado
>>
>> Quoting "Hélène.Bosc" <hbosc-tchersky at orange.fr> on Thu, 19 Jul 2012  
>> 21:13:57 +0200:
>>
>>> See also this study :
>>> BJÖRK, B.C. A Study of Innovative Features in Scholarly Open Access  
>>> Journals. Journal of Medical Internet Research, vol. 13 (4), 2011.   
>>> http://www.jmir.org/2011/4/e115/
>>>
>>> Hélène Bosc
>>> Open access to Scientific Communication
>>> http://open-access.infodocs.eu/tiki-index.php
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Peter Suber
>>>  To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
>>>  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:01 PM
>>>  Subject: [GOAL] Re: Finding a business model for a growing Open  
>>> AccessJournal
>>>
>>>
>>>  See the list of OA journal business models at the Open Access Directory.
>>>  http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki/OA_journal_business_models
>>>
>>>
>>>       Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>  Peter Suber
>>>  gplus.to/petersuber
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>    I am forwarding a message from the OKFN's open-access list  
>>> (http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access which uses the  
>>> term strictly to mean BOAI-compliant).
>>>
>>>    The poster Katie runs a successful OA journal and asks how she  
>>> can scale up without APCs. She raises the idea of a SCOAP3-like  
>>> model for cancer. There must be a number of other people with the  
>>> same question:
>>>    * they don't want closed access
>>>    * they don't want author-side fees
>>>    * they recognize the money has to come from somewhere.
>>>
>>>    Katie (and I) would be interested to know of possible models and  
>>> possible nuclei of like-minded groups.
>>>
>>>    This seems to me one of the key problems of the current time of  
>>> transition.
>>>
>>>
>>>    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>    From: Katie Foxall <katie at ecancer.org>
>>>    Date: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM
>>>    Subject: Re: [Open-access] SCOAP3
>>>    To: open-access at lists.okfn.org
>>>
>>>
>>>    Hello all
>>>
>>>    I haven't posted [on OKFN open-access] before but have been  
>>> following the discussions with much
>>>    interest and have founds the info and links provided by various people
>>>    really useful.  I run an open access cancer journal  
>>> http://ecancer.org/ecms
>>>    which has no author fees - we are currently mainly supported by charity
>>>    funding but the journal has been growing at a great rate this year so I'm
>>>    looking into accessing any funding that might be out there to  
>>> support open
>>>    access publishing.  The reality is that we will have to start charging
>>>    author fees at some point if we can't get more funding and we  
>>> really don't
>>>    want to do that as providing a free service for the oncology community is
>>>    very important to us.
>>>
>>>    So does anyone know whether there is anything like SCOAP3 in the field of
>>>    medical publishing?
>>>
>>>    Thanks in advance for any help or advice anyone might be able to give me,
>>>
>>>    Katie Foxall
>>>
>>>
>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>    From: open-access-bounces at lists.okfn.org
>>>    [mailto:open-access-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of
>>>    cn at cameronneylon.net
>>>    Sent: 18 July 2012 15:50
>>>    To: open-access at lists.okfn.org
>>>    Subject: [Open-access] SCOAP3
>>>
>>>    Not got so much press as the big announcements this week but  
>>> this is a big
>>>    deal. Communities can just decide unilaterally to move to OA.
>>>
>>>    http://scoap3.org/news/news94.html
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>>>    Peter Murray-Rust
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