[GOAL] Re: Open Access for Science in UK - request for sources
Peter Murray-Rust
pm286 at cam.ac.uk
Mon Jul 16 14:20:25 BST 2012
Thanks very much Alma,
This is very useful - I have some more questions, and would be grateful for
answers if you can...
> The data are from Yassine Gargouri (who has used the methodology he
> previously used, which consists of trawling the web for openly accessible
> full-texts and comparing the number of those with the papers in Web of
> Science, which is not a perfect, but a reasonable measure of the ‘universe’
> for UK researchers).
>
Is this published anywhere (formally or informally) such that we can
understand the details?
* How does he or Google know that the full-text is "openly accessible"? Is
this by trying to read it or is there a Google flag for openly accessible?
>
> Previously, Yassine has done this only on a global basis, but this time he
> has looked for papers with at least one UK author.
>
> * How is this done? Does *he* analyze the author affiliations or does he
get them from WoS?
> * is there an open electronic list of the publications (and their funders)
> so that I can access them
>
>
> He used Google to search for the papers.
>
More questions:
* Google or GoogleScholar? [Apparently they can give very different answers]
Assuming it was GoogleScholar.
* How was the subject classification done?
I can see one method how the "Gold" access papers were retrieved - by
mapping the Journal onto known Gold journals (sic). (I cannot see how
hybrid gold were easily measured but the numbers are probably too small to
worry about statistically)
I cannot see the next phase but I can conjecture. More questions:
* did he use his/Google results to compare with WoS?
* how did he determine that the paper was Green? Almost by definition this
has to be somewhere other than the publisher's site. [so the paper needs
another search for the paper mounted somewhere OTHER than the publisher.
* does he then have a system to determine whether the paper is readable
(not all papers in repositories are readable, as we have seen).
If he has such as system then it would seem to answer the key question:
* if I find a paper on a publisher's site can I find a free-as-in-beer copy
somewhere else on the web?
If he can really answer that question then is his system openly available?
P.
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