[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

[Jean-Claude Guédon]

Thank you, Keith.

How does one join EOS by the way?

Best,

jc


Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 12:35 +0000, keith.jeffery at stfc.ac.uk a
écrit :
> Jean-Claude –
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> As a Board member of EOS (and as an individual) I support fully (as
> you would expect)  this direction of travel and am on board!
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> Best
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> Keith
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> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On
> Behalf Of Jean-Claude Guédon
> Sent: 13 July 2012 12:58
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> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door
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> The discussion presently going on is divisive and not useful. Both
> Gold and Green are useful. Every little bit helps. Everybody is doing
> as well as he/she can, and we all know it is not enough. Let us at
> least trust each others' motives, please.
> 
> Let us, therefore, go back to the basic idea of Peter, regarding the
> possibility of convening a high-level group of administrators of
> universities and research institutions. I would add high-level people
> from granting agencies; researchers should also be involved,
> especially those who, like Stuart Shieber, have managed getting
> faculty-initiated mandates. Such a meeting has never been done before.
> The BIOAI10 meeting in Budapest last February focused on broad
> strategies rather than concrete strategic moves.
> 
> Stevan has mentioned the group "Enabling Open Scholarship" led by
> Bernard Rentier. First, Bernard is the perfect person to start the
> move toward a meeting of the kind suggested by Peter by virtue of his
> institutional standing. Perhaps this group is the right anchor for
> such a move. How can we join this group, or how can we work with it?
> We hear about it episodically, but nothing much seems to have come out
> of it so far. Would this not be the best occasion to really get this
> organization off the ground?
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> The goal: convene a limited but high-power group of administrators and
> researchers to develop a policy aiming at effective, immediate
> implementation of the green road, and do so in a unified manner. The
> implementation details should constitute a major part of this meeting:
> we seem to know broadly what we want, but we have not yet fully agreed
> on the the means to make it 100% effective. If researchers are
> evaluated only from what is in repositories, they will deposit. Now,
> why are so few institutions ready to implement such a policy? Are
> funders of research really ready to apply similar rules to the
> evaluation of applicants? Questions like these should be at the centre
> of this meeting.
> 
> The green road will have succeeded when researchers spontaneously turn
> to repositories to search the literature. We are very far from this
> and mandates are only one step in the right direction. The goal of
> this meeting is to build decisive momentum.
> 
> Anyone on board?
> 
> Jean-Claude
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> Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 10:00 +0200, Jan Velterop a écrit : 
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> If ever one needed an argument in favour of 'gold' OA, here it is.
>  
> Jan
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> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:48, brentier at ulg.ac.be wrote:
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> > Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> a écrit :
> > 
> >> What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are visible at time of publication?
> > 
> > None, of course!
> > Just ask for an e-print when you are in thé ORBi web site and we'll send it at once. It's Green, not Gold!
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