[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

[Jean-Claude Guédon]

The discussion presently going on is divisive and not useful. Both Gold
and Green are useful. Every little bit helps. Everybody is doing as well
as he/she can, and we all know it is not enough. Let us at least trust
each others' motives, please.

Let us, therefore, go back to the basic idea of Peter, regarding the
possibility of convening a high-level group of administrators of
universities and research institutions. I would add high-level people
from granting agencies; researchers should also be involved, especially
those who, like Stuart Shieber, have managed getting faculty-initiated
mandates. Such a meeting has never been done before. The BIOAI10 meeting
in Budapest last February focused on broad strategies rather than
concrete strategic moves.

Stevan has mentioned the group "Enabling Open Scholarship" led by
Bernard Rentier. First, Bernard is the perfect person to start the move
toward a meeting of the kind suggested by Peter by virtue of his
institutional standing. Perhaps this group is the right anchor for such
a move. How can we join this group, or how can we work with it? We hear
about it episodically, but nothing much seems to have come out of it so
far. Would this not be the best occasion to really get this organization
off the ground?

The goal: convene a limited but high-power group of administrators and
researchers to develop a policy aiming at effective, immediate
implementation of the green road, and do so in a unified manner. The
implementation details should constitute a major part of this meeting:
we seem to know broadly what we want, but we have not yet fully agreed
on the the means to make it 100% effective. If researchers are evaluated
only from what is in repositories, they will deposit. Now, why are so
few institutions ready to implement such a policy? Are funders of
research really ready to apply similar rules to the evaluation of
applicants? Questions like these should be at the centre of this
meeting.

The green road will have succeeded when researchers spontaneously turn
to repositories to search the literature. We are very far from this and
mandates are only one step in the right direction. The goal of this
meeting is to build decisive momentum.

Anyone on board?

Jean-Claude



Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 10:00 +0200, Jan Velterop a écrit :

> If ever one needed an argument in favour of 'gold' OA, here it is.
> 
> Jan
> 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:48, brentier at ulg.ac.be wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> a écrit :
> > 
> >> What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are visible at time of publication?
> > 
> > None, of course!
> > Just ask for an e-print when you are in thé ORBi web site and we'll send it at once. It's Green, not Gold!
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