[GOAL] Re: Becoming Unglued ... a rejoinder ...

[keith.jeffery at stfc.ac.uk]

All -
I agree with Jan with one exception; as a postgrad I used to sit in the library with a dozen paper-based journals around me with little bits of paper including annotations marking text or diagrams in papers I wanted to reference/cite.  This allowed fast comparison.  It is difficult to get this "real desktop" effect on a laptop.
Best
Keith

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-----Original Message-----
From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Jan Velterop
Sent: 02 July 2012 09:44
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Dana Roth
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Becoming Unglued ... a rejoinder ...

Dana,

All these things - including flipping through pages, making notes, looking up references, multiple books open - are possible if the books are in PDF (and you're using a suitable PDF reader, such as Utopia Documents for instance). On a single laptop; I'm doing it all the time. What your undergrads may need is not a paper book, but some computer training.

The only thing missing is the smell of a book. Which is indeed a drawback of electronic literature. 

Best,

Jan Velterop

On 1 Jul 2012, at 23:49, Dana Roth wrote:

> In regards e-books in the sciences and engineering ...
> 
> 
> This from one of our undergrads . who didn't want an e-book .
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> It is mostly personal preference that I prefer paper copies -
> 
>  *   I like being able to quickly flip through pages (especially with math books) to refer back to equations/concepts, while I'm not tech-savvy enough to open two pages in a e-publication.
>  *   Similar concept - having multiple books open and available is useful
>  *   Being able to look up references online in books
>  *   I take notes on my computer, so if I have an e-publication up, I can't take notes
> I suppose I'm just old fashioned. I realize now that this is not so much "anti-epublication" as "not enough e-readers to look at several of these e-pubs simultaneously."
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> Dana L. Roth
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> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [goal-bounces at eprints.org] on behalf of Eric F. Van de Velde [eric.f.vandevelde at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:35 PM
> To: goal at eprints.org
> Subject: [GOAL] Becoming Unglued...
> 
> I posted my latest blog a couple of days ago. It is slightly off-topic for this list in that it is about books, not journals. However, it is 100% about open access and an innovative way of getting around long copyright terms. Who knows, it can be translated to journals...
> 
> On Becoming Unglued...
> On June 20th, the e-book world changed: One innovation cut through the fog of the discussions on copyright, digital rights management (DRM), and various other real and perceived problems of digital books. It did not take a revolution, angry protests, lobbying of politicians, or changes in copyright law. All it took was a simple idea, and the talent and determination to implement it.
> ....
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> http://scitechsociety.blogspot.com/2012/06/on-becoming-unglued.html
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> 
> --Eric.
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