[GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

[Hans Pfeiffenberger]

Hi Alicia,

an hour before your mail, I suggested a blog article which seems to 
say that about 50% of all gold OA journals do not ask for APCs at all 
and APCs were indeed not paid for by half of all Gold OA articles.

This is not reconcilable with the 3-4% you report. Are we perhaps 
talking about completely different ratios?

best,

Hans

for your convenience: the link, again, was: 
http://svpow.com/2012/12/10/what-does-it-cost-to-publish-a-gold-open-access-article/


Am 12.12.12 13:59, schrieb Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF):
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> My colleague does an in-depth annual study on the uptake of 
> different business models, and suggests that this figure was 3-4% of 
> total articles at the start of 2012.  Elsevier, and I'm sure a wide 
> array of other publishers, have used a range of business models to 
> produce free-to-read journals for decades. I find it very 
> interesting that these models are now claimed by the open access 
> community as 'gold oa' titles although I suppose that's much less of 
> a mouthful than 'free-at-the-point-of-use' titles!
>
> With kind wishes,
>
> Alicia
>
> *From:*goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Poynder
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:42 AM
> *To:* 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber
>
> Thanks for the comments David. Your point about not equating Gold OA 
> with APCs is well taken.
>
> But it also invites a question I think: do we know what percentage 
> of papers(not journals, but papers) published Gold OA today incur no 
> APC charge, and what do we anticipate this percentage becoming in a 
> post-Finch world?
>
> Richard
>
> //
>
> *From:*goal-bounces at eprints.org <mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org> 
> [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] *On Behalf Of *David Prosser
> *Sent:* 11 December 2012 19:53
> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber
>
> As ever, Richard has put together a fascinating and entertaining 
> interview, and augmented it with a really useful essay on the 
> current state of OA policies.
>
> I have a small quibble.  On page two, Richard writes:
>
> "...or by means of gold OA, in which researchers (or more usually 
> their funders) pay publishers an article-processing charge (APC) to 
> ensure that their paper is made freely available on the Web at the 
> time of publication."
>
> APCs make up just one business model that can be used to support 
> Gold OA.  Gold is OA through journals - it makes no assumption about 
> how the costs of publication are paid for.  I think it is helpful to 
> ensure that we do not equate Gold with APCs.
>
> David
>
> On 3 Dec 2012, at 18:51, Richard Poynder wrote:
>
>     /Stuart Shieber is the Welch Professor of Computer Science at
>     Harvard University,//Faculty Co-Director/
>     <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber>///of the//Berkman
>     Center for Internet and Society/
>     <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber>/, Director of
>     Harvard's Office for Scholarly Communication (//OSC/
>     <http://osc.hul.harvard.edu/>/), and chief architect of the
>     Harvard Open Access (//OA/
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access>/) Policy --- a 2008
>     initiative that has seen Harvard become a major force in the OA
>     movement./
>
>     //
>
>     http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html
>
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