[GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

[Richard Poynder]

Thanks for this Alicia. Can you put some numbers on the percentage you cite?
I.e. the number of articles assumed as the total, the number of articles
from this total (3-4%) for which an APC was charged, and then the number of
those charged-for articles that were published in hybrid journals vs. the
number published in "pure" Gold OA journals? 

 

And when you say the start of 2012, what time span was used to arrive at
these figures? A year? A month? A quarter?

 

Has your colleague published this data? It would certainly be useful if
someone published this kind of data on a regular basis, not least in order
to track change over time. 

 

Also, is it possible to provide some more information on the
"free-at-the-point-of-use" business models you are referring to, and what
percentage of the total market they each represent?

 

Richard

 

 

From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf
Of Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF)
Sent: 12 December 2012 12:59
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

 

Hi Richard,

 

My colleague does an in-depth annual study on the uptake of different
business models, and suggests that this figure was 3-4% of total articles at
the start of 2012.  Elsevier, and I'm sure a wide array of other publishers,
have used a range of business models to produce free-to-read journals for
decades. I find it very interesting that these models are now claimed by the
open access community as 'gold oa' titles although I suppose that's much
less of a mouthful than 'free-at-the-point-of-use' titles!  

 

With kind wishes,

 

Alicia

 

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[mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Richard Poynder
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:42 AM
To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

 

Thanks for the comments David. Your point about not equating Gold OA with
APCs is well taken.

 

But it also invites a question I think: do we know what percentage of
papers(not journals, but papers) published Gold OA today incur no APC
charge, and what do we anticipate this percentage becoming in a post-Finch
world?

 

Richard

 

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[mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of David Prosser
Sent: 11 December 2012 19:53
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

 

As ever, Richard has put together a fascinating and entertaining interview,
and augmented it with a really useful essay on the current state of OA
policies.

 

I have a small quibble.  On page two, Richard writes:

 

"...or by means of gold OA, in which researchers (or more usually their
funders) pay publishers an article-processing charge (APC) to ensure that
their paper is made freely available on the Web at the time of publication."

 

APCs make up just one business model that can be used to support Gold OA.
Gold is OA through journals - it makes no assumption about how the costs of
publication are paid for.  I think it is helpful to ensure that we do not
equate Gold with APCs.

 

David

 

 

 

 

On 3 Dec 2012, at 18:51, Richard Poynder wrote:

 

Stuart Shieber is the Welch Professor of Computer Science at Harvard
University,  <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber> Faculty
Co-Director of the  <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber> Berkman
Center for Internet and Society, Director of Harvard's Office for Scholarly
Communication ( <http://osc.hul.harvard.edu/> OSC),  and chief architect of
the Harvard Open Access ( <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access> OA)
Policy - a 2008 initiative that has seen Harvard become a major force in the
OA movement.

 

http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html

 

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