[GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) A.Wise at elsevier.com
Wed Dec 12 12:59:27 GMT 2012


Hi Richard,

My colleague does an in-depth annual study on the uptake of different business models, and suggests that this figure was 3-4% of total articles at the start of 2012.  Elsevier, and I'm sure a wide array of other publishers, have used a range of business models to produce free-to-read journals for decades. I find it very interesting that these models are now claimed by the open access community as 'gold oa' titles although I suppose that's much less of a mouthful than 'free-at-the-point-of-use' titles!

With kind wishes,

Alicia

From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Richard Poynder
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:42 AM
To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)'
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

Thanks for the comments David. Your point about not equating Gold OA with APCs is well taken.

But it also invites a question I think: do we know what percentage of papers(not journals, but papers) published Gold OA today incur no APC charge, and what do we anticipate this percentage becoming in a post-Finch world?

Richard

From: goal-bounces at eprints.org<mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org> [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of David Prosser
Sent: 11 December 2012 19:53
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

As ever, Richard has put together a fascinating and entertaining interview, and augmented it with a really useful essay on the current state of OA policies.

I have a small quibble.  On page two, Richard writes:

"...or by means of gold OA, in which researchers (or more usually their funders) pay publishers an article-processing charge (APC) to ensure that their paper is made freely available on the Web at the time of publication."

APCs make up just one business model that can be used to support Gold OA.  Gold is OA through journals - it makes no assumption about how the costs of publication are paid for.  I think it is helpful to ensure that we do not equate Gold with APCs.

David




On 3 Dec 2012, at 18:51, Richard Poynder wrote:

Stuart Shieber is the Welch Professor of Computer Science at Harvard University, Faculty Co-Director<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber> of the Berkman Center for Internet and Society<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/sshieber>, Director of Harvard's Office for Scholarly Communication (OSC<http://osc.hul.harvard.edu/>),  and chief architect of the Harvard Open Access (OA<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access>) Policy - a 2008 initiative that has seen Harvard become a major force in the OA movement.

http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-oa-interviews-harvards-stuart.html

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