[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

[Bo-Christer Björk]

Good idea,

Here are four such journals, all of which have been there since the 1990s:

Information Research

Journal of Information Technology in Construction

Journal of Electronic Publishing

First Monday

best regards

Bo-Christer Björk

Journal of On 8/9/12 11:35 AM, Laurent Romary wrote:
> Dear all,
> As an echo to the fourth option mentioned by Peter, I would like to 
> gather references to journals and initiatives which are notoriously 
> community based. Could members of the list point to what they would be 
> aware of?
> Thanks in advance,
> Laurent
>
> Le 7 août 2012 à 16:11, Peter Murray-Rust a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sally Morris 
>> <sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk 
>> <mailto:sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     We should not delude ourselves; journals can only be 'free' if
>>     someone pays
>>     the costs.
>>
>>     All the work involved in creating and running a journal has to be
>>     paid for
>>     somehow - they don't magically go away if a journal is e-only (in
>>     fact,
>>     there are some new costs, even though some of the old ones
>>     disappear).
>>
>>     I can only see three options for who pays:  reader-side (e.g. the
>>     library);
>>     author-side (e.g. publication fees);  or 'fairy godmother' (e.g.
>>     sponsor).
>>
>>
>> There is a fourth option, which works: the scholarly community manage 
>> publication through contributed labour and resources and the net 
>> amount of cash is near-zero. This is described in 
>> http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/ where 
>> the J. Machine Learning Research is among the highest regarded 
>> journals in the area (top 7%) and free-to-authors and 
>> free-to-readers. There is an enlightening debate (on this URL) 
>> between those who run the journal and Kent Anderson of the Scholarly 
>> Kitchen who cannot believe that people will run and work for journals 
>> for the good of the community.
>>
>> There is no law of physics that says this doesn't scale. It is simply 
>> that most scholars would rather the taxpayer and students paid for 
>> the administration publishing (either as author-side or reader-side) 
>> so the scholars don't have to do the work. And they've managed ot get 
>> 10 B USD per year. If scholars regarded publishing as part of their 
>> role, of if they were prepared to involved the wider community (as 
>> Wikipedia has done) we could have a much more C21 type of activity - 
>> innovative and valuable to the whole world rather than just academia. 
>> It would cost zero, but it would be much cheaper than any current model.
>>
>> And of course we now have a complete free map of the whole world 
>> (openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org/>) which is so much 
>> better than other alternatives that many people and organizations are 
>> switching to it. And, for many years, it didn't have a bank account 
>> and existed on "marginal resources" from UCL (and probably still does).
>>
>> But most people will regard this as another fairy tale.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Peter Murray-Rust
>> Reader in Molecular Informatics
>> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
>> University of Cambridge
>> CB2 1EW, UK
>> +44-1223-763069
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