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    <p><font size="4">Hi Tomasz,</font></p>
    <p><font size="4">I believe that the ORCID Support Advance plugin
        makes the ORCID column for creators/editors read-only, as this
        is required by ORCID, so you don't get inconsistent data with
        the same creator/editor with different ORCIDs.&nbsp; Beyond making
        the ORCID field read-only the creators/editors field will behave
        the same as with just ORCID Support.&nbsp; This provides the
        /cgi/users/lookup/name script [1], which incorporates the ORCID
        in the autocomplete with the name and ID (typically email)
        fields.&nbsp; This works by looking up previous entries for
        creators/editors.&nbsp; I assume this is the point you are trying to
        make, which is that before your installed ORCID Support no
        creators/editors would have ORCIDs so it is likely this lookup
        script will find the name, maybe ID (email) but probably not an
        ORCID, so this is pretty useless, unless you can backfill the
        existing creators/editors.&nbsp; <br>
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    <p><font size="4">An alternative solution to the </font><font size="4"><font size="4">/cgi/users/lookup/name script </font>would
        be to have a lookup script that gets the name, ID (email) and
        ORCID from the EPrints user table.&nbsp; This will get populated with
        the ORCID when the user connects their EPrints account with
        ORCID, although their name maybe be formatted differently to how
        it appears in the creators/editors field, (typically user field
        has full given name whereas creators/editors may use initials).&nbsp;
        It may be worth submitting a GitHub issue requesting such a
        script is written.&nbsp; The disadvantage of such a script is that
        you would need to have a decent of number of users in your
        repository to make this useful.&nbsp; Even if you have all
        institutional users added to your repository, you will have to
        manually add external creators/editors names in full.&nbsp; This
        could lead to inconsistency and would be annoying for someone
        having to manually add a regular collaborator, when before they
        could make use of auto-complete.<br>
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    <p><font size="4">One thing I have written to improve ORCID Support
        is a cron job that can run periodically (I run overnight) that
        looks up any EPrints user that has a valid ORCID set.&nbsp; It then
        looks up all eprint records that have a creator/editor where the
        email address (or whatever field) of the user matches the
        creators/editors ID.&nbsp; It will then set the ORCID sub-field for
        that creator/editor to that or the user record, if it does not
        yet have a value set.&nbsp; This script is quite useful when you have
        ORCID Support Advance, as it will makes sure a user who has
        connected their EPrints user account to ORCID that day will get
        all their eprints updated with ORCIDs that night.&nbsp; This is
        something you would want to do asynchronously, as you could have
        hundreds of eprints that need updating.&nbsp; I have not yet provided
        this script, (probably best added to ORCID Support), as if it
        does not work properly it could do quite a bit of damage.&nbsp;
        However, I have been running it on several repositories for a
        while now, so I am fairly confident it is sound.&nbsp; When I have a
        chance I will try submitting this as a pull request to the
        eprintsug/orcid_support GitHub repository.<br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font size="4">Regards</font></p>
    <p><font size="4">David Newman<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/08/2022 8:09 pm, Tomasz
      Neugebauer via Eprints-tech wrote:.<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I recently upgraded our ORCID integration
            to the Orcid Support Advance plugin.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">It’s working, but I have a question about
            how the ORCID actually makes its way to the Creator field?</p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Let’s say someone gives our repository
            permissions, will their ORCID “automatically” appear in the
            Creator field when they add their name as an author?&nbsp; How
            does the plugin know to do that, a matching email address in
            the “User” fields?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Tomasz<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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