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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Tomasz,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For the OAI-PMH question, you can add 'from' and 'until' parameters to the request - based on the last_mod date of the record in question
e.g.:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://[YOUR"><span style="color:windowtext">https://[YOUR</span></a> REPO]/cgi/oai2?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadataPrefix=oai_dc&set=[YOUR CUSTOM SET ID]&from=[A TIME JUST BEFORE THE LASTMOD]&until=[A TIME JUST AFTER THE LASTMOD]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The from/until params should be in the format: 2021-11-01T00:00:00Z<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Automatic sets get listed on the item page* but it appears that the custom sets don't get listed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I'll have to revisit the OAI-PMH specs to see if this is an allowed behaviour…
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">* e.g. EPrint 631 is part of our 'irus-orcid' set:
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<span style="color:windowtext">https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/cgi/oai2?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadataPrefix=oai_dc&set=irus-orcid&from=2021-11-01T00:00:00Z&until=2021-11-02T00:00:00Z</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">but the irus-orcid set isn't listed on
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<span style="color:windowtext">https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/cgi/oai2?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=oai_dc&identifier=oai:eprints.whiterose.ac.uk:631</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David R Newman via Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2021 23:46<br>
<b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk; Tomasz Neugebauer <Tomasz.Neugebauer@concordia.ca><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] non-existent dates and oai-pmh sets<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi Tomasz,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Validation for dates has been added in EPrints 3.4.3, which prevent invalid dates being set. Unfortunately, a couple of bugs have been found post release:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>1. Multiple values not supported by EPrints::MetaField::Date validate function<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>2. Bespoke validations no longer supported for Date MetaField<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Both of these issues would not be a problem in a vanilla EPrints archive but if you use the Dates, Dates, Dates Bazaar plugin, you will need to apply a patch to fix this. If you had your own validation triggers set for individual date fields, then these
would have stopped working without a second patch to fix this. Both these patches can be found at the EPrints 3.4.3 release wiki page [1].<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>A further addition to the Date MetaField in 3.4.3 is the ability to define a bespoke function under $c->{worfklow_datepicker} that defines the HTML markup as a XML::LibXML::DocumentFragment. This HTML markup could include client-side (i.e. JavaScript) validation/restrictions
to prevent invalid dates from being set (e.g. if you change the month to February, its does not allow 30th or 31st to be set for the date).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Alternatively there is a Datepicker MetaField available in the daterangepicker ingredient [2]. However, this uses a single text field rather than multiple field separately storing year, month and day in separate database columns. So it is not ideal if
you want to transform an existing Date MetaField into a Datepicker MetaField.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>On you second question. There is no URL syntax to test if an item is in a particular OAI-PMH set. I think that statement is true for all OAI-PMH not just specific to EPrints. I am not sure there is any straightforward way to perform your test, bar writing
your own client script to download just the identifiers for a whole OAI-PMH set, 100 identifiers at a time, as OAI-PMH is designed to work. After downloading each tranche check whether the item in question is present. The initial request for identifiers
in a set would be a bit like:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>This will then give you a resumption token to get the next 100 until there are no more identifiers left.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>David Newman<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>[1] <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FEPrints_3.4.3%23Known_Issues&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C668300556b6a4af7ff9308d99f732862%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637716140854329486%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=vBvMDGDm%2BDJET7hh%2FyzOZXTr8yqHINNq4FYDIhQUzps%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/EPrints_3.4.3#Known_Issues" shash="F2blxevc3r4MH1ECNQDMbAZiIrknuk0CG5V/UPRKH61eOzazKkE77ilSfv55yGoQZDUTWv91z7BDBdlZN0nRqQUP94UbdgeXhCkErS7WTd/4YspQuCYP3S2rzH3xTOAJpSdd4agslkLow1HM9it+AT1gPs/lHxz07mI1ySerzhU=">
https://wiki.eprints.org/w/EPrints_3.4.3#Known_Issues</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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https://github.com/eprints/daterangepicker/blob/master/plugins/EPrints/MetaField/Datepicker.pm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 03/11/2021 22:44, Tomasz Neugebauer via Eprints-tech wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hello everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I have a couple of questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">First question, it's about setting an embargo expiry date (and choosing other dates). It was recently brought to my attention that it is possible to set "non-existent" dates, for
example, February 31st or April 31st. I'm not sure if I hadn't thought about this before, or if I didn't really think of this as an issue, but I suppose this raises the question of:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If the embargo expiry date (e.g: April 31st) never happens, then does the embargo ever expire?
</span>🙂<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> The question is, has anyone thought this issue serious enough to build-in some error checking for this, or attempted to modify the date-picker interface that exists in
<span class="spelle">EPrints</span> to address this issue?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Second question, it's about limiting what is inside an OAI-PMH set. Based on my understanding, we can use something like this in the oai.pl configuration to create a set that is
both (1) limited to un-embargoed (open access) items AND (2) items limited by type:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">$<span class="spelle">oai</span>->{<span class="spelle">custom_sets</span>} = [</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> { spec => "<span class="spelle">openaire</span>", name => "<span class="spelle">OpenAIRE</span> Set - OA article conference book monograph",</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> filters=> [</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> {<span class="spelle">meta_fields</span>=>["<span class="spelle">full_text_status</span>"], value=>"public"},</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> {<span class="spelle">meta_fields</span> =>[<span class="spelle">qw</span>( type )], merge => "ANY", value => "article
<span class="spelle">conference_item</span> <span class="spelle">book_section</span> monograph book" }</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> ]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> }</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">];</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">How can I confirm if this is working correctly? In other words, how can I test if an item in the repository is part of an OAI-PMH set? Is there a URL syntax where I could pass
the eprintid and the set name to find out if it is part of the set?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Tomasz</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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