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<p>Hi Catherine,</p>
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<p>I got a bit distracted with the disambiguation stuff, as that had
been a lot of hassle to sort out, so apologies for not directly
answering your question. <br>
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<p>The main point of this code is to allow EPrints to push back to
ORCID to update the employment or education of the user who
connected their EPrints account with ORCID for the purpose of
importing and exporting publications/citations. If you just
comment out this whole block (i.e.
$c->{"plugins"}->{"Event::OrcidSync"}->{"params"}->{"affiliation"}
), EPrints will not try to update the employment/education of an
ORCID connected EPrints user, as it will not have any useful
information. However, if you just leave the configuration
unchanged it will basically have the same effect. It will just
make the server do some unnecessary work before ORCID will reject
"ZZZZ" as an invalid RINGGOLD ID for an organization that EPrints
tries to update the user's ORCID profile with. <br>
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<p>I would advise that commenting out is better than deleting this
configuration, as if either you choose to re-instate this later or
it causes an unintended side effect, reverting the change only
takes a matter of seconds if it is commented out. Either way,
once you have changed the config you will need to reload the
webserver for the change to take effect.<br>
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<p>Hope this helps</p>
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<p>David Newman<br>
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Thanks David,</div>
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I appreciate this information - it's useful to know, but what
I'm trying to ascertain is whether it's possible to bypass the
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If the code I referred to below is deleted, will the rest of
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Catherine,</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I had a
similar discussion with ORCID as it was difficult to
lookup the RINGGOLD ID for an institution. They pointed
me at this page:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">My
conclusion if it wasn't that by other means I had found
out the RINGGOLD ID for the organizagtion I was setting
this up for I would have used the GRID [1] service to set
the disambiguated-organization-identifier and
disambiguation-source. It is a little unhelpful that the
comment suggests using ISNI, as ORCID say they do not
formerly support ISNI. If you want to use GRID, I believe
you want to set something like this:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">"disambiguated-organization"
=> {<br>
"disambiguated-organization-identifier" =>
"grid.5491.9", # GRID ID for University of Southampton<br>
"disambiguation-source" => "GRID", <br>
}<br>
</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Obviously
you would need to set the right
disambiguated-organization-identifier for your
organization. Also regarding setting the other values
under organization. The values you should set for this
would be the same as the O(rganization), L(ocality),
S(tate)/Province/County and (C)ountry used on the SSL
certificate for your EPrints repository. E.g.</p>
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</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">"name" =>
"University of Southampton",
<br>
"address" => {<br>
"city" => "Southampton", <br>
"region" => "Hampshire",<br>
"country" => "GB", <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">},</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Please let
the list know how this goes, in particular to confirm that
GRID is the correct value for the "disambiguation-source"
as I never got a chance to test this with the organization
I worked with because as I previously said, I managed to
find out the RINGGOLD ID without needing to sign up for a
time-limited free account. If you only need to setup for
your organization, then it might be worth setting up such
a RINGGOLD account as you will only need to use it once.
However, I knew I was likely to need to do lookups in the
future after the free account would have expired, so did
not think it was worth creating an account at the time.<br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Regards</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">David Newman<br>
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Hi all,</div>
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I was just wondering if anyone could give me some
advice on the affiliation section of the ORCID Support
Advance Plugin.</div>
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If an institution didn't want to send affiliation data
to ORCID records, would it be as simple as deleting
this section of the code?</div>
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<pre style="font-family:monospace,monospace; background-color:rgb(248,249,250); border:1px solid rgb(234,236,240); padding:1em; line-height:1.3em; font-size:14px">#Details of the organization for affiliation inclusion - the easiest way to obtain the RINGGOLD id is to add it to your ORCID user record manually, then pull the orcid-profile via the API and the identifier will be on the record returned.
$c->{"plugins"}->{"Event::OrcidSync"}->{"params"}->{"affiliation"} = {
"organization" => {
"name" => "My University Name", #name of organization - REQUIRED
"address" => {
"city" => "My Town", # name of the town / city for the organization - REQUIRED if address included
# "region" => "Countyshire", # region e.g. county / state / province - OPTIONAL
"country" => "GB", # 2 letter country code - AU, GB, IE, NZ, US, etc. - REQUIRED if address included
},
"disambiguated-organization" => {
"disambiguated-organization-identifier" => "ZZZZ", # replace ZZZZ with Institutional identifier from the recognised source
"disambiguation-source" => "RINGGOLD", # Source for institutional identifier should be RINGGOLD or ISNI
}
}
};</pre>
Would there be any unintended repercussions from doing
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