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<p>Hi James and others,</p>
<p>On the topic of dodgy filenames, another thing I have been
working on for 3.4.3 is generic filenames, i.e.
<fileid>.bin, e.g. 12345.bin. Obviously, this is quite
complicated as it has to deal with legacy as well as new
repositories. Therefore, this functionality (to create files with
the filename format <fileid>.bin) will be disabled by
default. However, EPrints will look for the file on disk first
using its filename or otherwise its fileid with a .bin file
extension, whether the primary functionality is enabled or not.
(If the new functionality is not and has never been enabled this
will make no functional difference to EPrints current behaviour).
Therefore, if you have a problem with a file not being
downloadable, all you need to do is go into the filesystem and
change the filename to the appropriate <fileid>.bin. As the
determination of which file to load from disk is done under the
hood (Storage::Local plugin), no databases changes are needed and
this will not cause any anomalies in the XML revision files.</p>
<p>If anyone has any thoughts about this functionality. In
particular any edge cases where it might fall over that would be
useful to know. I have tested request a copy functionality for
PDFs that are coversheeted, which has been a gotcha in the past
due to the layers of obfuscation and this change does not cause
any problems. It is possible it could cause a problem woth thirs
party applications if they put files on disk in a way that
circumvents the Storage::Local plugin.<br>
</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>David Newman<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/01/2021 15:02, James Kerwin via
Eprints-tech wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Last time I'm mentioning this, I promise. The very real
problem I faced with Word documents has been fixed on both
the repo and Elements side.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>By a stroke of good/bad fortune, the original item now
isn't downloading because of the ";" in the filename, or
that is at least my working assumption. The other 25 ";"
items in the repository are behaving in a similar way in
Elements. Might be something to check on your own systems.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So yeah, real problem where the example item was
suffering from two problems.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>James</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 2:35
PM James Kerwin via Eprints-tech <<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="padding-bottom:10px;padding-top:5px">
<div style="padding:12px;border:1px solid
rgb(141,57,112);background-color:rgb(247,249,250);color:rgb(141,57,112);font-size:14px;line-height:22px;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><strong>CAUTION:</strong>
This e-mail originated outside the University of
Southampton.
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<div dir="ltr">Right so where I'm at; I can access
embargoed and non embargoed .doc AND .docx files both
through Elements and the repository. I still can't
access that one particular item through elements. This
is far more progress than I could have hoped for when
this was pointed out to me. The file URLs start with
https on both systems, which is good.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm hoping there's some sort of cache issue
within Elements. It is definitely the case that I
couldn't access any word documents on either the
repo or Elements and I now can, apart from the
original problem item.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I shall call this a success! Thank you all again
for the advice, pointers and patience. I'll
uncomment those lines from
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F10_core.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727779843%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=PaGJiohvXU12A9WdWEJZCNiXQxP%2BFHpBVLFavlydHHM%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="WKMyV74pzblGS4WubGS38K/GozjZXk85xMHe3YCFS/8e4MKfKI5mG9HLHXcJDcHwgLXlBIHoMOB5zgMmz0QUHETH5eyAhhcUBc9P2pOdmq2BApTKplqn9oAtK6+Qc6N7t4g+jH3DX0XQLarW/fxhQjkEWxwLAgirRikLykk+uMc=" originalsrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="CJzdqC5gngOc47KS5G8eFQ4rlgBOubvAskc5V6Ee9SBkc2bHA3FVf8KyJfi7TL5owat6n3gEgeanwefPb/cWRoDLmYv3soB6QaV581J2gwJlQcJd65q5udCaF31EffFyxo4NM0yHfRhxnHFgAxGZXmNdWh8aTBWwzH2HXk0yttM=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
10_core.pl</a> and make the advised changes to <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F20_baseurls.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727784820%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RAMBu%2F69Uxj62sn2BHrx%2Bc5eutLdTtAuxRTgKuK1svU%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://20_baseurls.pl/" shash="Kvsondq5XqNavpFE0k/xldThP/6U093AqTBcXfMUocXxFaTbcGU35TokAQfTfmgsGwYt7WDP8VKyLfN55RSAlWi2Gz7wLa9CoIcKQEfW3jTwVNGsKSyBdNnb8QJkfm4j3jf4F7j5Qs+zzL0p7zKyryzc3d9w3qVcAcd/jOs9W5M=" originalsrc="http://20_baseurls.pl/" shash="R61fGpV5FqhaLMOQNk8CNiFSiJtAYGdiSy89EhbEgFCjiG42ppI1Ojo3AhG2meWtOs8ZrkjcgDd6Q7bXn6M4LWdFBANO81XafoWKrtcGf89Ul6szSeG1ZuercF46yj3L6gvnxnxIVBaUP0A2K+oLaezBlVV1kqzjliKebGgKNXY=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
20_baseurls.pl</a>. Hopefully we finally get to
upgrade the server and EPrints this year before we
fall too far behind.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>James</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 5, 2021
at 1:01 PM David R Newman <<a href="mailto:drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi James,</p>
<p>Something being under embargo is likely to
redirect you to HTTPS as you need to login or be
logged in to access the document. So that
probably is why you can download the .docx and
not the .doc.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>David Newman<br>
</p>
<div>On 05/01/2021 12:47, James Kerwin via
Eprints-tech wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">Okay so a small update. Sorry
for bombarding the list with this, but it's
plausible that others may discover they have
the same nasty problem and my step-by-step
blundering through the repo config might be
useful for a change.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The "test" word document doesn't
download from Elements (the eprint record
I included above somewhere) but another
one now does! So I THINK I'm almost there
with this issue.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The only difference between the two is
one is .doc (won't download) and the other
is.docx (will download) which I don't
think should be the cause of it. The docx
is under embargo while the other is not,
which is going to be my next thing to
investigate.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue,
Jan 5, 2021 at 12:14 PM James Kerwin via
Eprints-tech <<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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solid
rgb(141,57,112);background-color:rgb(247,249,250);color:rgb(141,57,112);font-size:14px;line-height:22px;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><strong>CAUTION:</strong>
This e-mail originated outside the
University of Southampton.
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<div dir="ltr">Hi John,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am glad you sent this because
I don't have a <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F20_baseurls.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727789800%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3JhY4qJ5ivXAGsxCZmfkigQo8VJ%2FwvokUeA6HrnYxDM%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://20_baseurls.pl/" shash="KYhEPz0gjIBj8xnewog+j2wqQJK1ydysq10beYsEEgSLPiLIWMBwjfQf6Z1xy40euY39y7ytVSIaU+QJsVifqcTnGhv5cRd2TAf9DjVUBZcgb7XXA6NuMamzJ7R2i/yzfTMM9Pcq/dZIxNqfBTJoGc7t/9GYORtcfqojIHJ+Rds=" originalsrc="http://20_baseurls.pl/" shash="R61fGpV5FqhaLMOQNk8CNiFSiJtAYGdiSy89EhbEgFCjiG42ppI1Ojo3AhG2meWtOs8ZrkjcgDd6Q7bXn6M4LWdFBANO81XafoWKrtcGf89Ul6szSeG1ZuercF46yj3L6gvnxnxIVBaUP0A2K+oLaezBlVV1kqzjliKebGgKNXY=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
20_baseurls.pl</a> in my archive
config, but after you mentioned it
I've just discovered it exists in
the default cfg. Pretty sure mine
is the old version as it checks
for host first and if that isn't
set looks for securehost.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In an act of desperate
experimentation, before
discovering this baseurls file, I
commented out:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>#$c->{host} = '<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flivrepository.liverpool.ac.uk%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727794777%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=CsfdDX2x9HEMziab%2Fvl2k0liBLRlmiQDGJluHYdPIEQ%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/" shash="UT7eT0Ly3nIs6pmO7LYlbVmkCZhXIoeWpse3+BkTtsHpjT6+/238gT7QheSqM9IDyz3wH0IwzgjdjxW4NlA0WVlbgexqI7tjHQpQ8Uoj2o6z10m+Fwss+nCubt2PIHCxS5NLkTjyZXFmV529xZT0M/DKhwFKqLLvpxoLCRXjek0=" originalsrc="http://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/" shash="GDUA8NR7RgP/EFEjFa39GV0MfLJ19/9ePW6R63Qc+50GVYb1ssf1t7mZIrSPY61r1NfWCOM779Kurkakq6jL6MiEGa72IuBsGqMY5SpWFX++uTNcFwBbw04xiw5iB6rKWg1VGD030hMtsIuntusnDPmHmmEZD+xpb7rs3GFT3HE=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk</a>';<br>
#$c->{port} = 80;<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This DOES give me a https in
the elements file link where it
previously gave me http. I assumed
this would fix it, but it hasn't!
I click and see this text in my
browser:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px
0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felements.liverpool.ac.uk%2Frepository.html%3Fcom%3Dget-file%26publication-id%3D247357%26rfid%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Flivrepository.liverpool.ac.uk%252Frt4eprints%252Ffile%252F149146%252FC__Users_fjones_Desktop_RESEARCH%2525202017_Catullus%252527%252520libellus%25253B%252520Paideia%2525202018.doc&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727799756%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=g6N1759Pbm%2BP0n1yOlR%2BECe3y9bVeHmrJFUR8WCNAuM%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://elements.liverpool.ac.uk/repository.html?com=get-file&publication-id=247357&rfid=https%3A%2F%2Flivrepository.liverpool.ac.uk%2Frt4eprints%2Ffile%2F149146%2FC__Users_fjones_Desktop_RESEARCH%25202017_Catullus%2527%2520libellus%253B%2520Paideia%25202018.doc" shash="Bb5ZdVBe5T5ZASp5PEbys3VFkje+68jgHtdr56RA4OiZbyjfRfhePHwRij13fbBCczOSMEEHfTJvxDdrQX+ZYuxtTeNNd9yjE6FM/Q+GX55OldLzlwfWkqcEVtBt6u9SYlJPIRjMVXJ6F10/buxIgeZY2p3LfmApiIQC0uiXAwM=" originalsrc="https://elements.liverpool.ac.uk/repository.html?com=get-file&publication-id=247357&rfid=https%3A%2F%2Flivrepository.liverpool.ac.uk%2Frt4eprints%2Ffile%2F149146%2FC__Users_fjones_Desktop_RESEARCH%25202017_Catullus%2527%2520libellus%253B%2520Paideia%25202018.doc" shash="ZhAmWA0Uz0ziJf1T6XwpWTvyfc6hhuWGMrMJT+sTdDs2aQkU6A7ZeuRnEvbLaARql3rFdhx1Q2xs9ptPvvWctIQfRIHKaFsMf4/xwosVgdmn5yfArKWLR6yNGC2h7704AauAGrxA04PwC01qj8ir+0sRp8Qm+kC3pbBT8TE+xog=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://elements.liverpool.ac.uk/repository.html?com=get-file&publication-id=247357&rfid=https%3A%2F%2Flivrepository.liverpool.ac.uk%2Frt4eprints%2Ffile%2F149146%2FC__Users_fjones_Desktop_RESEARCH%25202017_Catullus%2527%2520libellus%253B%2520Paideia%25202018.doc</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
I'm at a little bit of a loss now
that hasn't fixed it.This time I
have no console clues to go on
either. I've checked the RT1
settings in Elements and
(surprisingly) wherever they mention
the repo url it's already https.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I shall keep thinking thoughts
and hopefully a solution will
magically present itself.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>James</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:31 AM John
Salter <<a href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi
James,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For
the 'doesn't resolve the
access via Elements'
aspect - is the URL in
Elements http (rather than
https)?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The
data that Elements
collects for a publication
comes from e.g.
</span><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flivrepository.liverpool.ac.uk%2Frt4eprints%2Fpublication%2F%255bSYMPLECTIC%2520PID%255d&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727804733%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qjL3%2BB56uxiYR6pin5wPaDd3g3yiN3yBYyR5tiKs%2Bpg%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/rt4eprints/publication/%5bSYMPLECTIC%20PID%5d" shash="sfeXyUDqZFCc0ck4JKW4OElZckQVTVuacqBrLs6bHqtGUM1bzh4X8ZYrVf8pxr1KLJrc7trgNuYfx6cYpHz8p1iZ7QF5UPELFch+vA8eWuQAVTs6ISPBCOr9auW57/VQudPX7c4zSoUKOKf9fNocTKe9zh9B+/bKKQV5YwssLzU=" originalsrc="https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/rt4eprints/publication/%5bSYMPLECTIC%20PID%5d" shash="aeropGnzNeefMoAIYxFuddD222CtEI1j4B/jJRsMa4O5gME2LDCUWt7vCWAKQtCvSciZ5PNX+1xWum4ufQ6saD7Pjr6KFsKtWr940Oxwc/rRYLisJ6VP2btoplmSrHQpXmMF4X6OBXQvvXlswyJy5AHfMxz7qwghd3FzJNs07eI=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/rt4eprints/publication/[SYMPLECTIC
PID]</a> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">That
file is compiled via
Symplectic::Atom::AtomSerialiser
- and (via a few layers)
ends up calling
$document->get_url().</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If
the links in the Symp Atom
representation are
currently http, then I
think you'll need to make
EPrints create https URLs
by default.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">You
might want protocol-less
URLs in the user
interface, but I'm not
sure whether they would
confuse any processing at
the Symplectic end of
things - so you probably
need to make your base URL
default to https.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Somewhere
between
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F10_core.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727809712%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=AyOdKvwUunV1F05ePSwRzBnemnk0x28mwro587nkkZY%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="FDUnOJRYNthHHwYHHRwNFvpnqFl10CWfsZClWvDXbRMho21upi0VJQDJ0c9moV1Leic8dhVnJR05KvNvKJt7fIrE2oaY7C4z89zd5rCqVmr7y/gAXDBkFlbQwo+rKHGCRC2bWrTwcPgTiHa4eUKQATQpZemjrAnS1/ey8zA+vbA=" originalsrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="xISp8hL82clB9rGkYnrsky1geQzVU/13Rivz+VibMp3v5MbbT4M1AXVlM+Cy+9b8nH3YI8N0wHJAAnOMO3w+X2da8aBmMoIJJDVPww2Fay2qmnR+PMeTC2ZRPIWldXo8sz4YgPydZsDWM9vlkPhH53WXdNUz0Fx612cO6Z2Zz/c=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
10_core.pl</a> and <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F20_baseurls.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727814693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hptQNwJP3lsZsyDgLFU9GXfwlTXDFGd5D3FmdeRgQcc%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://20_baseurls.pl/" shash="AXbrrDsBH58sS/lbfLachYaFuM8j0cY1mICLOGf5+Q+QapWsdgg3dsgwTFsnq8Jl+L82QXJs0FH4HbQYHh5APUsLKigwAZ2wI0dypmvOYf/l01nrFRqe8AUfBbYEJhB9r2ulO58IOQW8WCD3P1ebS++CzAumZJSSs8HrmkP4U54=" originalsrc="http://20_baseurls.pl/" shash="cZk3rRYMVOUAqsKF+Uq52VvQPye43JzC9TsIGXir40qAUt3b7qMvC6Ua0kavJIg6/rQrlOgzD3nFJxd3vY8sxwH+AKvifbfBLTNJO3jgI2CzFkkFInsUjTrYvqhlyWZ8LaQhKVsZOK4WfmoSmnaf1AFqy3WCDgji1uz00wRLTXQ=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
20_baseurls.pl</a> you
can make it default to
https.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It
might be worth comparing
your live version of this
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Feprints%2Feprints%2Fblob%2F3.3%2Flib%2Fdefaultcfg%2Fcfg.d%2F20_baseurls.pl&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727819671%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=UuRVeNhluhU7dHjKcxj46GLNk%2FIx274ScTQhhLepqOA%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/20_baseurls.pl" shash="Tq8DWnpbSrazdBbAn2DC2y01RNePAo7C+ex6SBu1X6lVdIVFgFsBx10y9Qgjm+hZ/Q0cd2YFloquZHO/5AG4Pb0UglaeN+OANdzt8oWQluHtTA9R2s3h03IJSenamY9J2LzusRo8poWHTT8pCwYnDwXoJnjdmvvwp2yHDoeXpac=" originalsrc="https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/20_baseurls.pl" shash="vap1gqXgLGM5js0J1KRiKxXSlf5m7MqmRFW19Kkcl5PwfKvBmMZqZO9OZPENeIutTo7pXg+zyb7QiruXiI9a5/WVOMmULKc8rsdke8FeDJrWYxJUhRVxz7nDsT7zdiz6ouFRiXKgufr/pt9Mtu7yHeFIFmr7CpnEMXcqa+am76A=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/20_baseurls.pl</a>
file to that one.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It
was updated to prefer
https a few years ago, but
as the file gets copied
into your repo config it
may well be that you've
got an older version that
prefers http.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">John</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James
Kerwin via
Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05
January 2021 09:32<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[EP-tech] Word
Documents won't
download</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div style="border:1pt solid
rgb(141,57,112);padding:9pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;background:rgb(247,249,250)"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">CAUTION:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">
This e-mail originated
outside the University
of Southampton. </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies,
the link with the
solution for the
front-end is this one:
</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fjacobovidal%2Fef5015e4e05905c6ec684425cf30bc9b&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727824646%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=O2w8Ca%2ByLEDDFYuUwDoTiUK54lYWyK%2FACtSk%2BCt52L0%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://gist.github.com/jacobovidal/ef5015e4e05905c6ec684425cf30bc9b" shash="fikrf+eOV29i/IeZKQi0jKG/kUSEXUZFpY87bv1AiLL+SccdL51Zv2U65GMqtvk2ImD9rsUrSK4o+Eqnv+S9huhCkVp5jwRBQEIthW4cs+1qzpmsHr42c826Zkdkzv89TRwRvUzj2Sw1V+eSpUQLlqbMPH1Yi0QPaoYqS3yncho=" originalsrc="https://gist.github.com/jacobovidal/ef5015e4e05905c6ec684425cf30bc9b" shash="rJszc/c2m99gS5UXseR37C4qzUE9Dfs8YnjLG7abqLtxWkZ+Rc9+d57PfOkGLBzfiWAVCzpQ3QVDHHamSFUtlZ4BAo8eB1EXbZpU+EB47U1NL5ECSZMEs2X2WcZXJoxGLCE3pqXE0Dcq+l+ItRcdyktEPe/4DoKI21yNItjLC68=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gist.github.com/jacobovidal/ef5015e4e05905c6ec684425cf30bc9b</a></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The
stack overflow one is
related (I currently
have so many tabs
open, hence the
confusion).</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at
9:12 AM James Kerwin
via Eprints-tech <<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
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<div style="border:1pt
solid
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;background:rgb(247,249,250)"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">CAUTION:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">
This e-mail
originated
outside the
University of
Southampton. </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Morning
all, </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Don,
John and
David; thank
you so much
for setting me
on the right
path. I had
zero chance of
sorting this
out without
your help.
Especially
since I forgot
that the
console
existed in
Chrome...</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
read this blog
post that
explains my
repo-woes:</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-left:30pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.chromium.org%2F2020%2F02%2Fprotecting-users-from-insecure.html&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727824646%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Xf1X%2FgL1w9Wq%2Bd4ff5DsWmv7ks%2Fp8%2FA65kH%2BZUxw2HI%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://blog.chromium.org/2020/02/protecting-users-from-insecure.html" shash="KDirOqEcPI5CZpPxP+nS4ndUKQ1NFrbTMJPGc1mKHw+TauvN84ho370i9XkQAcxKhzCxkHM5G8mY6BG4BFCfgaJgU4rV3ENw0N+zU6QxQ9iNVz0aW/1KfGcnvUIo+mYGRprCab1wsxeyJb7mQhJhPN77wB+TR4EcX8DTrmJ7lIw=" originalsrc="https://blog.chromium.org/2020/02/protecting-users-from-insecure.html" shash="jS9PFbeU6QgZ5e59+YkrxxzeqzZr0MnsJifZ/HnBf/6BzlY9+vdlpF9Ojn5jiVL1fZ6HPjqQ6AQXomOiLZpnK4G4WNITzPGMI7kw4ZhpHeyhzxR2dO2BHlGLcCdT+ZZkhQ4T1ne7WWAaPnjig3ZJt/mAZQQ+glD+tyCb+96p9D0=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://blog.chromium.org/2020/02/protecting-users-from-insecure.html</a></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
found this
"solution"
that appears
to work on the
repository
side of
things:</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-left:30pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F32650396%2Fmixed-content-insecure-content-ssl&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727829632%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=g9rD7ZQAoJrATsRtPArTD4tgAPeA5fVyrX5IcSeNyNM%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32650396/mixed-content-insecure-content-ssl" shash="lHD5eVcEIRiqFd0OL07cdp8WYe/BK4NtX9jLKnhok9Yd/2jB47VlOkM32RA+VBt/Ral4IkQb+73FC6USDKlMNfQo+FhvjoM8cjrjx+laGvZQueRPbabaJkblQbtMkMFB3RcN/Q0h1GSRYp1YQGbvfThbdsi/7keJoOWR/U6SO4M=" originalsrc="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32650396/mixed-content-insecure-content-ssl" shash="CCrrGHNWH/prc+2Rq2w0kYt+ZwvFCVX9+q3spDbz7pVdgeBzxF62ESJK1Kc64EXfQCsCjUhEJlcOo8ohlIBK8JX72UKoWSu/xL4gw0KKLduiy1yzwDTN4D6YQqKaVlX0JA8GldnEYPQcr1oj1rL3e+WEmfbejWE/qCYT2XaycT0=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32650396/mixed-content-insecure-content-ssl</a></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've
so far opted
for the
addition of
the meta tag
in
../cfg/templates/default.xml:</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-left:30pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">meta
http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy" content="upgrade-insecure-requests"</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
appreciate
this isn't the
BEST solution,
but it's the
most immediate
one that gets
some people
off my back
until I can
implement a
proper one. It
does not solve
the issue of
accessing the
file via
Elements,
which is what
I expected.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">It
was one of my
predecessors
or CSD that
set up HTTPS
in our
repository and
it hasn't been
done in the
standard
"EPrints
way". I
thought it
worked well by
redirecting
people to
HTTPS. I had
previously
tried
replicating
this set-up in
our data
repository,
but I'm glad I
didn't now.
The data repo
doesn't go to
https until
logging in and
it often
generates
emails from
users along
the lines of
"your website
isn't
secure!".</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Anyway,
thank you once
more for the
help and
advice. I will
update you all
on how I get
on.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">James</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
Mon, Jan 4,
2021 at 10:25
PM David R
Newman <<a href="mailto:drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I have just
tested you
config change
but it does
not seem to
work on the
abstract page
of the
repository I
have been
testing on.
My
recommendation
would be to
set the
following
config option
at the end of
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F10_core.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727834596%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=nqPtxQagOGiE3LcDFEq2MTnPA8SC%2BJKEopxW9Ykf5mg%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="eWmHl3RQRUnXwrZ7H43AMgXsZN8gzrUTGD/TvJHLFXBbRXnFM2TU7kTzehD+O7457cAv7Nmx7/77vszNo7BufAAtTJO1mvhsIU1F7Rqxyx8IvfRNgcNk9/ojh7k0Xt/XfmNl72o8j/k9L8aAWsj1CYKtBDbn6JtB6u93ci3VL5g=" originalsrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="cGo5XH46lRR3CxgKYxDOsj1oAFg1kihUVjPSG0NM64cwRdVdNoFqlMMuuXYzCVkN1pubOyYSnwGIKi4LwiVlmLJC/nHzuTBBnF18BAjlvwd0npMOfqNJRk0w9z0pICDnNrXDt3fKqyjhuiF7ZXbBWrLFyFBE6phj5fvJ4C9SlOg=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
10_core.pl</a>
to make the
URLs
protocol-relative:</p>
<p>$c->{http_url}
= '//' .
$c->{host}
. '/';</p>
<p>$c->{http_cgiurl}
= '//' .
$c->{host}
. '/cgi/';</p>
<p>This sets a
protocol
relative URL
rather than an
http one. You
could
alternativerly
set to
'https://' .
$c->{host}
. '/'; to just
make all URLs
https. If you
only set to
the
protocol-relative
option then
there is a
minor issue
that the
EPrint::View
page for live
items with be
display the
URL as
//HOSTNAME/12345/
rather than <a href="https://HOSTNAME/12345/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://HOSTNAME/12345/</a> which may be confusing to some users as they
would expect
it to start
http or
https. Also
default
abstract/summary
pages will
display the
URI as
protocol-relative
at the end of
the summary
table. These
are issues I
have been
trying to
address for
adding robust
protocol-relative URL support to EPrints 3.4.3.</p>
<p>The
motivation to
switch to
procotol-relative
URLs is that
it saves a
wholesale
switch from
http to https
URLs with
redirects that
I have noted
often causes a
dip in
Google-indexing
and download
stats for up
to a month or
so. An
explanation
about why this
happens can be
found at:</p>
<p><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FSimplified_HTTPS_Configuration%23Issues_and_Troubleshooting&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727839573%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bNmDQUgcs0tpaaKIZeIQ4UP6sZIF6ZUzHskpy7mQboc%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#Issues_and_Troubleshooting" shash="RUv7w68BXUdK1jZrwzIbiA45fn0vpV6Rns/JrCyl6JN/CnXqc1lcnkmk5Z1COTxjU1rOCw8ld/LD3/Nkd1n+0zFxve/uS7ZlAk/kbh+oRI2X2qQ1RGPDtpFYHPJl+Sj9UkI+lm0nWRD7jZ3MZY/kKJ8Wc2KOZNe+EKRP8ru8hNk=" originalsrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#Issues_and_Troubleshooting" shash="Ef1xoHGRhSwu5SlXDVuuQVh2xEWktVagf+dm+Gvg3ENx1mvFvcqrEhUnP+HnkJHwv11u37OQAV+asxlqzUOQLIE0vmYNOowqbBy7mSegGiTUn+GMGrUMFSW/zua4sYEhgRa8mM/azXXbdkuUUYi3FRO/HTfzFxwp78EVatMn8fQ=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#Issues_and_Troubleshooting</a>
</p>
<p>I don't
think using
https in the
http_url
configuration
option will
affect the
download stats
that much, as
it won't lead
to and http to
https redirect
that is the
predominant
factor in
lowering
download
stats. It
will however,
change the
URIs for
eprint items,
which may have
an affect on
Google
indexing.
However, this
is very much
dependent on
how Google
seeks out the
URLs to be
indexed, which
is
multivarious.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>David
Newman</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
04/01/2021
18:02, John
Salter wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div style="border:1pt
solid
rgb(141,57,112);padding:9pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;background:rgb(247,249,250)"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">CAUTION:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">
This e-mail
originated
outside the
University of
Southampton. </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I've
just
re-checked my
config files.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For
3.3.x, if you
include (in
e.g.
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F10_core.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727844550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kw2sytRqT4KwaV9N2NNBfph6aSQGMYzREUtD0Zi4F%2Fc%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="LwsmdCZywHjae6KZofCQ7+560oGAsltzJQI1F4MCUUgrNqcFU3eCk3f0D0jYtqF/yik25uJnTASZw7J9rwfQOJEhT0PtekSTMIjD6xWziAqDxEvfqow7kQe9f83Akwzpp0k0qr23WXuMeuo7GcvRwhtSSDF0h2wBMyd3BoV1Y50=" originalsrc="http://10_core.pl/" shash="d+R9ommsCmcElQ7Wvp87Re6whpd+LVZcZX8QcqnZpS7YzAEpQDchiAR/ao2Q6T9hIB7IoBedi2WKgvgrAEBH2vssceNNJqa9btELcs4jexMZgedQVCagGOgEsGVmpTwaJGzEGUcuDXwVKo2Grf4KEb4OumzvtAapVww2L8IBRMw=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
10_core.pl</a>):</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">
$c->{http_root} = undef;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It
will make
thumbnails/download
links relative
rather than
absolute.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
think there
was more to it
that that
though - if
you're
creating
downloadable
content (e.g.
coversheets) ,
you want it to
render the
full links
(using with
https by
defult).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">John</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
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rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>David
R Newman via
Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
04 January
2021 17:44<br>
<b>To:</b>
John Salter <a href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk></a>;
<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>;
James Kerwin
<a href="mailto:jkerwin2101@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jkerwin2101@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [EP-tech]
Word Documents
won't download</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>So, the
problem is the
URL generated
by EPrints
compiled XML's
cite:linkhere
which uses
http rather
than https.
The suggestion
John's makes
about
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FSimplified_HTTPS_Configuration%23HTTPS_Only&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727849546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Ru3EOSxY31DAM6%2FxHl8NIptKWexlSsdzzPXiyjDDz54%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#HTTPS_Only" shash="MEb35KsJQ3wRYCsEYT9vzmBQTPHV5MaWqoMkAfIpjVP18Hnag65x6ys1Ycec3ixvOAt4pCnnla5vtAWMJKkfBCqfi0uHCGzVDeeHTf4OJo71VMDGL0n36Y7+h/nCmlQfYMIZY9XAXdwoApD4l2TL6zYWdoeHVO6OONVKuVcunvc=" originalsrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#HTTPS_Only" shash="jDuxO/ukcw/PIndq/pS9Q6IgWZkjnlCzhjMlndth95lhLys4G1xQKeb9j+QWLTB0DoVtWEbWuP6iCwyvjMShyzxHIUC7BF5bM5oXUFWUC9w09h49vqbKKlTWyCxNwMoKWhUyGfHk65Nffg9VP7tjIH6AUdRXhPSmhAFBH7HtWcM=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#HTTPS_Only</a>
will only work
if you are
running
EPrints
3.4.1+, which
I can see that
you are not.
</p>
<p>One of the
features I
have been
working on for
3.4.3 is
protocol
relative URLs
which should
help deal with
these issues.
If you are
still running
3.3.x fixing
these sort of
problems with
be tricky. I
think you need
to look at the
various
document
citations and
possible <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feprint_render.pl%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727854516%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=AMI4c68BbNXYo9%2BrxLDOFbc47S3jRN8gRjjhTF9Vmvs%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://eprint_render.pl/" shash="D9wvNzNv5Sy4AucTw4EAzPANSdK2iEsq9bwucWsPqLTcSyIWZRn8T4dFCXicVPfdKF7o8E34KLc1qfYfU/yxcO2P3IMYksA2SGHkUxwRmSm9krxf92BHagcFAJ+N0srZbBGM83w9OuMJKDSSvrChGZVBZ0N0ysi7fjFyBh+In4M=" originalsrc="http://eprint_render.pl/" shash="zECXBkOyylB285aCgNgUgpwtMNnRQNQB4Jw9iz4fLDmNKidkfX5VMcWHMXCaiisp46atTfXLm0vQUJZuOXwjs7p8FWnJYXHs4ew0iZYjnX+E4nX4RuTa+1TQScuPsMo6I92gaLUSq/7MN4DS3pXe0LhWFkgeFDDcEPQkFgO4NCA=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
eprint_render.pl</a> and replace the http URLs with https URLs. In some
cases the http
URL will come
from the
<cite:linkshere>,
which you will
probably need
to hack with a
fix like:</p>
<p><a
href="{$config{https_url}}/{eprintid}/{pos}/{main}">
</p>
<p>and
</cite:linkhere>
with
</a></p>
<p>Hope this
helps</p>
<p>David
Newman</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
04/01/2021
17:20, John
Salter wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div style="border:1pt
solid
rgb(141,57,112);padding:9pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;background:rgb(247,249,250)"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">CAUTION:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">
This e-mail
originated
outside the
University of
Southampton. </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">>
I was just
about to chime
in that the
document URL
is rendered
with http -
but you're
redirecting to
https - so
some part of
Chrome's 302
handing is
possibly
confusing
things…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">To
flesh that out
a bit more:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">White
Rose is
currently
still
available over
http and
https.
Document links
are relative -
so match the
protocol
you're
visiting the
site from.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For
LivRepo, it
looks like
you're using
an HSTS setup
so requests to
http:// are
redirected to
https:// (via
a 307
response).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If
you update the
download URL
to use https
(via Chrome
Console /
Inspect), it
downloads
fine.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">To
fix this in
EPrints,
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FSimplified_HTTPS_Configuration%23HTTPS_Only&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727859496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pwu3N39X6%2BC3pbaGnQc35LAji4wMrE9xS7f2VvVkUBE%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#HTTPS_Only" shash="rje63KmoGnr8+/ouHWu6tvgy1tvMOMetFe1HY/JrSClHCvEHJ6bw9BnDzTxvFb9rJ0evymTMKlYF8I5uDawVO2kTJG99Tcau6qJXQi0OW6QOhSGfuhyRfY9Oaq6P+lL4C//YuYkACOv+xULLLgG4nWzncnsUZZVX98eXoy4t2Yo=" originalsrc="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#HTTPS_Only" shash="ATt7XtxUJvP1KfFwRthVU1aGZf72fZwdyTwrGUYjdThpR0YY8MYg4eT9v5NyRph61JtzXeArQY0tUv+EzRSJSAWZ/70oN1CvqhrZAb+aoGoeUxum+c7wE8O2wOlPFWn6jp1hH6Miw2bNB7R/+XtwJbu3PqecvV/l3/+DYGkCKfI=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Simplified_HTTPS_Configuration#HTTPS_Only</a>
- setting
'host' to
undef is the
key - although
test this
thoroughly
first - can't
remember if
there's any
related 'fun'
with
Symplectic
connector if
you do this (I
don't think
there is…).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">John</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
solid
rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt
0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>David
R Newman via
Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
04 January
2021 17:02<br>
<b>To:</b>
James Kerwin <a href="mailto:jkerwin2101@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jkerwin2101@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [EP-tech]
Word Documents
won't download</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p>Hi James,</p>
<p>You should
note that the
whiterose URL
is http rather
than https. I
have tested
(on Chrome)
the same URL I
was testing
before but
with http
rather than
https and this
worked just
fine. This is
starting to
suggest to me
some security
feature
(albeit maybe
a bit broken)
within
Chrome. From
the depths of
my brain I am
vaguely recall
some issue to
do with
content length
mismatches
that exhibited
similar
symptoms.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>David
Newman</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
04/01/2021
16:53, James
Kerwin wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div style="border:1pt
solid
rgb(141,57,112);padding:9pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt;background:rgb(247,249,250)"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">CAUTION:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(141,57,112)">
This e-mail
originated
outside the
University of
Southampton. </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi
David, </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
for your
response. it's
good to know
it's not just
me (although I
did ask my
family to also
attempt to
download it
and they all
struggled).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">To
add to the
confusion,
this item on
the White Rose
repository
downloads
fine. Unless
Mr Salter has
some different
setup, I'm
afraid it only
adds to my
quiet terror:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feprints.whiterose.ac.uk%2F160018%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C415d279960bf409a7da208d8b1969d98%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637454607727864474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZkR%2Bi9CqG4bYgLehB16zJR6zddVczXp0pZolshJc3g4%3D&reserved=0" originalSrc="http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/160018/" shash="YrAOq/ZFejw1R7ejbysbYMdttzEugujQ4oVhUXNyXmpGLxI20UH8Zv7udywWmWqrQYvevMfd3me4Fh0B/G/jRB3rMHGGVvD4esZ7EZp25rCNe3kcB84oZMyslaN6557UiawIG/KSFdCzKjJLeZFSSEL6yMXt+jU9D9aENt0Sc4s=" originalsrc="http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/160018/" shash="BuwtM/TJfFj8P1VDYrCcTxGnXitjErJ53sigYz8tlSC0JacX74Nh+Jy218mnK8ZjSbrK7IqzC9uY1urptLunr30yNZ6LY76rp4OPY/4+0calWCQibbe77NQCUsvSxDRLdkm2GXUOzmZ2f0uWIX4D7wAWUdLtfJk4soRkQvPjGY0=" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/160018/</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">What
I have noticed
is that his
filenames in
the word
documents have
no spaces. I'm
currently
mooching
through our
EPrints
database for a
doc(x) file
that also
avoids spaces.
This isn't the
most
scientific way
to work it
out, but I'm
hoping it
yields some
results...</p>
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<div>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This
sort of
problem
landing at my
feet on the
first day back
at work should
be considered
some sort of
abuse of my
human rights!</p>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">If
by some
miracle I find
a cause or
solution I
will share it.</p>
</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">James</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
Mon, Jan 4,
2021 at 4:45
PM David R
Newman <<a href="mailto:drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi James,</p>
<p>I see the
same behaviour
on your
repository for
the Word
document on
the URL you
provided.
Similarly it
works fine on
FireFox but
has problems
on Chrome when
you click on
the link and
don't try to
download it
another tab.
Oddly, if I
try a second
time I get a
popup asking
me if I want
to allow
downloads of
multiple
files. I have
tested on a
different
repository and
I see the same
issue with
both .doc and
.docx files.
I suspect
there may be
issues with
all
application/...
mime type
files. My
best guess is
this is a new
security
feature from
Chrome. It
may be
something that
requires
tweaking
Apache's
configuration
or possibly
even something
within
EPrints.</p>
<p>I have also
tested on Edge
and Opera (all
browsers
running on
Windows 10)
and I do not
have any
issues
either. The
Chrome version
I am running
is
87.0.4280.88,
this looks to
have been
released at
the beginning
of December.
I do not know
when my
browser
upgraded but
there are
currently no
knew updates
available for
Chrome
according to
my browser's
"About Google
Chrome" page.
I will
continue to
investigate
and get back
to the list if
I find out
anything more.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>David
Newman</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
04/01/2021
15:54, James
Kerwin via
Eprints-tech
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi
All,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Happy
new year etc.
Hope everyone
is well.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
have a problem
that has
appeared today
and it was
fine before
18/12/2020 (as
in it worked
as expected).</p>
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Word
documents are
not
downloading on
the repository
when using
Chrome. If I
right the
download link
and open it in
a new tab it
works and the
file is
downloaded.
PDFs are
behaving fine.
If I use
FireFox and
click the
download link
the file will
download, but
it does prompt
me whether I
want to save
or open (this
is fine, I
don't use FF
much so I
won't click
the "don't ask
again"
option).</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In
Elements on
both Chrome
and FF the
file will not
download. PDFs
are
downloading
through
Elements fine.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is
there a likely
cause for
this? Some
sort of update
to some
obscure
working of the
internet?</p>
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