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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I just tried this using Edge (Chromium-based) and I saw the following warning in the console:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mixed Content: The site at 'https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/' was loaded over a secure connection, but the file at 'https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/3033942/5/C__Users_fjones_Desktop_RESEARCH%202017_Catullus%27%20libellus%3B%20Paideia%202018.doc'
was redirected through an insecure connection. This file should be served over HTTPS. This download will be blocked in future versions of Edge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That will be for the reason that John just pointed out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I suggest looking at the console in Chrome to see if there are any messages about it is actively blocking the download.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s strange that Word documents and PDF files have different behaviour though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Don.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Salter via Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 January 2021 17:05<br>
<b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk; David Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; James Kerwin <jkerwin2101@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Word Documents won't download<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I was just about to chime in that the document URL is rendered with http - but you're redirecting to https - so some part of Chrome's
302 handing is possibly confusing things…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David R Newman via Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 January 2021 17:02<br>
<b>To:</b> James Kerwin <<a href="mailto:jkerwin2101@gmail.com">jkerwin2101@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Word Documents won't download<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi James,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>You should note that the whiterose URL is http rather than https. I have tested (on Chrome) the same URL I was testing before but with http rather than https and this worked just fine. This is starting to suggest to me some security feature (albeit maybe
a bit broken) within Chrome. From the depths of my brain I am vaguely recall some issue to do with content length mismatches that exhibited similar symptoms.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>David Newman<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 04/01/2021 16:53, James Kerwin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi David, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your response. it's good to know it's not just me (although I did ask my family to also attempt to download it and they all struggled).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To add to the confusion, this item on the White Rose repository downloads fine. Unless Mr Salter has some different setup, I'm afraid it only adds to my quiet terror:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What I have noticed is that his filenames in the word documents have no spaces. I'm currently mooching through our EPrints database for a doc(x) file that also avoids spaces. This isn't the most scientific way to work it out, but I'm hoping
it yields some results...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This sort of problem landing at my feet on the first day back at work should be considered some sort of abuse of my human rights!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If by some miracle I find a cause or solution I will share it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 4:45 PM David R Newman <<a href="mailto:drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk">drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hi James,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I see the same behaviour on your repository for the Word document on the URL you provided. Similarly it works fine on FireFox but has problems on Chrome when you click on the link and don't try to download it another tab. Oddly, if I try a second time
I get a popup asking me if I want to allow downloads of multiple files. I have tested on a different repository and I see the same issue with both .doc and .docx files. I suspect there may be issues with all application/... mime type files. My best guess
is this is a new security feature from Chrome. It may be something that requires tweaking Apache's configuration or possibly even something within EPrints.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I have also tested on Edge and Opera (all browsers running on Windows 10) and I do not have any issues either. The Chrome version I am running is 87.0.4280.88, this looks to have been released at the beginning of December. I do not know when my browser
upgraded but there are currently no knew updates available for Chrome according to my browser's "About Google Chrome" page. I will continue to investigate and get back to the list if I find out anything more.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>David Newman<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 04/01/2021 15:54, James Kerwin via Eprints-tech wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a problem that has appeared today and it was fine before 18/12/2020 (as in it worked as expected).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Word documents are not downloading on the repository when using Chrome. If I right the download link and open it in a new tab it works and the file is downloaded. PDFs are behaving fine. If I use FireFox and click the download link the
file will download, but it does prompt me whether I want to save or open (this is fine, I don't use FF much so I won't click the "don't ask again" option).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In Elements on both Chrome and FF the file will not download. PDFs are downloading through Elements fine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there a likely cause for this? Some sort of update to some obscure working of the internet?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any help will be gratefully received. I'm totally confused by it and don't know where to start.<o:p></o:p></p>
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