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<p>We should have made something long ago which can cache the rendered versions of citations and Export plugins for single items, and invalidated the cache when records are altered or the config is changed... would speed up everything a load.</p>
<p>(Sorry, I sketched the idea years ago and never implemented it)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/05/2019 15:08, John Salter via Eprints-tech wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The database takes a big hit for OAI-PMH requests that include hyper-authored papers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We have a block of 100 records that contains ~10 ATLAS research papers - each with 3,000&#43; authors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This takes a while to generate the XML response (there's *<b>a lot</b>* of nodes that get created).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I've got this EPScript addition to limit the authors in a citation (it's not perfect - I should have used a couple of phrases in there
 - if I was going to share it formally).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">On our summary page we also have the full author list displayed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For us, the issue we're concerned about is that when we have a paper with loads of authors, if someone editing the item visits a workflow
 stage with the authors on it, it takes *<b>ages</b>* to do anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Our repo staff want to retain the complete author list - so I'll continue looking down the 'improved input methods' path rather than
 'truncate from source' option.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">
eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>martin.braendle--- via Eprints-tech<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2019 14:36<br>
<b>To:</b> John Salter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk">
&lt;J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk&gt;</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">
eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Antwort: RE: Hyperauthorship<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Hi,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">we thought of limiting the rendering, too. However, in that case, the database has to deliver the author records before the limit is applied, which involves a performance penalty. Anyone who had
 to deal with a 2000 author item in EPrints can tell what this is like. That's why we decided to limit on input already. &nbsp;</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Cheers,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Martin</span><br>
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            14:36:13---Hi Martin, Interesting approach. The records I'm,
            looking at a" class="" width="16" height="16" border="0"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#424282">&quot;John
 Salter&quot; ---16.05.2019 14:36:13---Hi Martin, Interesting approach. The records I'm, looking at all come via Symplectic or Pure - and w</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Von: </span>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&quot;John Salter&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">An: </span>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&quot;<a href="mailto:martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch" moz-do-not-send="true">martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch" moz-do-not-send="true">martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch</a>&gt;,
 &quot;<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Datum:
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">16.05.2019 14:36</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Betreff:
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">RE: [EP-tech] Hyperauthorship</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Martin,</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Interesting approach. The records I'm, looking at all come via Symplectic or Pure - and we could implement some form of limit to the number of authors - and retain any that are 'resolved'
 (local) authors.</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I was thinking of changing the default input rendering for the creator field along these lines:</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If there are &lt; LIMIT authors, render input as currently exists</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If there are &gt; LIMIT authors, render a static list of them, and enhance with javascript to allow editing of specific entries / re-ordering / searching filtering the list.</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This could even be deployed as a separate workflow stage (which only appears when there are &gt; LIMIT authors).</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I'll have to see what people here think about limiting the author list on the way in to EPrints - that sounds like a better place to be…
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">John</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<a href="mailto:martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch" moz-do-not-send="true">martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch</a> [<a href="mailto:martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:martin.braendle@id.uzh.ch</a>]
<b><br>
Sent:</b>&nbsp;16 May 2019 13:22<b><br>
To:</b>&nbsp;<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>; John Salter &lt;<a href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk</a>&gt;<b><br>
Subject:</b>&nbsp;Re: [EP-tech] Hyperauthorship</span><br>
&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Hi John,</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
we have a lot of high energy physics or biomedical articles with hundreds or thousands of authors. Usually, those are submitted via CrossRef or PubMed import.</span><br>
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We have adapted the corresponding import plugins to limit the number of authors by a configurable limit (in our case 30). If the limit is exceeded, &quot;et al&quot; is added as the &nbsp;($limit&#43;1)th author, the remaining authors are not imported and a warning message is
 issued. Submitters are then still free to add the remaining UZH authors manually and use et al for authors outside of UZH.</span><br>
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Instead of the DOI plugin, we have developed a CrossRef plugin that uses the CrossRef REST API . It implements the author limitation as well. We decided to go with the CrossRef REST API because funder information can be imported from there.</span><br>
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Best regards,</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
Martin</span><br>
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Dr. Martin Brändle</span><u><span style="color:blue"><br>
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Von: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&quot;John Salter via Eprints-tech&quot; &lt;</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&gt;<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
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Hi,<br>
Has anyone done any work on making the EPrints workflow a bit more sensible when a paper has many authors (hundreds or thousands)?<br>
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Cheers,<br>
John<br>
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