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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If it&#8217;s not empty, then it&#8217;s likely also not null.&nbsp; Now you can see the specific items it&#8217;s including can you use that to confirm the common factor (e.g. is it ALL items with an external author, no internal only
 people?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The issue may also be with the grouping_function for the view, which is likely to be operating on the internal ids rather than names?&nbsp; How / where are you doing the conversion between the internal id and the
 author name?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 September 2017 11:13<br>
<b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Okay, so I&#8217;ve gone back and taken a look at this.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Adding in a max_items definition of any value into the creator browse values will generate the view of 9000 items at NULL.html. Which is nice!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But the entry is still on the browse listing page with no link &#8211; I&#8217;m guessing that because it&#8217;s technically not empty, hideempty is doing nothing, however I would have thought allow_null would have suppressed it?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Curious!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2017 16:25<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And when you renamed it to bananas, did it have the various config listed and just give the same page about exceeding system limits?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Can you add something like<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">$c-&gt;{browse_views_max_items} = 3000;&nbsp; to your cfg.d file (outside of the $c-&gt;{browse_views} = [&#8230; ];&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; definitions)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And you are restarting the apache server before rebuilding views?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Have you tried a view rebuild from the commandline?&nbsp; ( &lt;EPRINTS_HOME&gt;/bin/generate_views &lt;REPO_ID&gt; --view=creators &#8211;verbose) &nbsp;add another verbose for more information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is the cfg.d file where you are pushing the new definition alphabetically after anywhere else you are defining $c-&gt;{browse_views}?&nbsp; (e.g. views.pl)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2017 16:01<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nggggh &#8211; no dice! I tried removing a few other elements from the view generation to see if that did anything but it&#8217;s not even affecting the page. I did do a test and renamed the view to &#8220;bananas&#8221; which worked (the view was accessible via
 /bananas) but&#8230; Argh! Stupid thing!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2017 15:21<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Can you try adding <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">max_items =&gt; 0, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">to your view definition<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">e.g. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; id =&gt; &#8220;creators&#8221;,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; max_items =&gt; 0,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; allow_null =&gt; 0,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hideempty =&gt; 1,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Then rebuilding the view ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 September 2017 15:17<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That&#8217;s the problem &#8211; I get nothing except:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:white">The number of items (2001) for this view has exceeded system limits (2000). The system administrator either needs to increase &quot;max_items&quot; or apply
 additional filters to this view.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I&#8217;m about 90% sure that this is the Null items in the author table, where we have no internal id for non Lincoln authors and it just goes into the database as a Null, but the code suggests that should be suppressed?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 16:23<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Can you get to the admin edit view for any of the items you can see?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do any of the creator (etc) entries look like they might have missing information?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 15:59<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It tells me that there is a cap of 2000 items per view.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 15:14<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And if you look at </span><a href="http://%3cyour.domain.name%3e/views/creators/NULL.html">http://&lt;your.domain.name&gt;/views/creators/NULL.html</a><span style="color:#1F497D"> do you see the 9001 items, and what
 are their various contributor_internal_id fields, names, etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 15:01<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It must have crept in there somewhere (a lot of this is coming from me cleansing my data from a number of duct tape fixes that have been put in) but that&#8217;s a whole other kettle of fish!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Your suggestion of looking at the source was helpful &#8211; it&#8217;s trying to link to NULL.html which suggests it&#8217;s generated a page for those nulls and is ignoring the rules in the view definition.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Argh!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 14:07<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Presumably that ORCID / ISNI is in the internal ID field or is it out of the translation?&nbsp; How many things are in your repository?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
<span lang="EN-US">[</span></span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 12:11<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I&#8217;m getting ID&#8217;s and translated names, but then I&#8217;m also getting this ? entry. Screenshot:
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B67FaE28LeB-bkYxQkZzM0tfU2M/view?usp=sharing">
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B67FaE28LeB-bkYxQkZzM0tfU2M/view?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 12:02<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is your view just displaying the ids or is it translating to a name e.g. from the user table?&nbsp; Might it be not finding the id during the translation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 11:19<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yup. The exact definition is:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">push @{ $c-&gt;{browse_views} }, (<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">{<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; id =&gt; &quot;creators&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; allow_null =&gt; 0,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; hideempty =&gt; 1,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; menus =&gt; [<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; fields =&gt; [ &quot;creators_internalid&quot;, &quot;contributors_internalid&quot;, &quot;editors_internalid&quot;&nbsp; ],<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; new_column_at =&gt; [1, 1],<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mode =&gt; &quot;sections&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; open_first_section =&gt; 1,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; group_range_function =&gt; &quot;EPrints::Update::Views::cluster_ranges_30&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; grouping_function =&gt; &quot;EPrints::Update::Views::group_by_a_to_z&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; },<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; ],<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; order =&gt; &quot;-date/title&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; variations =&gt; [<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;type&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;date;truncate=4,reverse&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;DEFAULT&quot;,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; ],<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">});<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan.Stiles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 September 2017 10:49<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Does your view definition in cfg.d have these parameters?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;allow_null =&gt; 0,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hideempty =&gt; 1,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> [</span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Beeken<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 September 2017 10:00<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Unknown entries in creator browse<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, I&#8217;ve implemented an &#8220;Internal ID&#8221; for the creator browse on our new repository as per David Newman&#8217;s guide here:
<a href="http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Using_Internal_IDs_for_Staff_Browse_Views">http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Using_Internal_IDs_for_Staff_Browse_Views</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This works fantastically and both clears up and exposes some issues with our data which is perfect &#8211; a large part of this was to ensure we can clean our data up appropriately. One thing it has done, however, is added a ? entry to the creator
 browse &#8211; I&#8217;m assuming that this is picking up external authors on records who do not have internal ID&#8217;s set against them and do not have a user record. There are around 9001 of these although I cannot see them as the browse is not creating a page to show them,
 merely showing the number in the listing. Is there an easy way to suppress this as it&#8217;s more of a visual issue?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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