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<span lang="EN-CA">The problem is that subtypes are stored in different fields depending on the type<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">If the field type that the subtypes are stored in are the same (probably set/namedset), then you can add all the subtype fields to a menu level:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> #…other view definitions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The issue with this is where there is no subtype - so you want to include the null (UNSPECIFIED) values - with some form of label.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There may be some problems with this approach* - but it might just about work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">*e.g. a monograph getting included in the presentation menus?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tomasz Neugebauer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 August 2017 20:13<br>
<b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] doctype views with monograph-type and pres_type<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you Adam! That is really helpful; it certainly gives us a couple of options for getting this done. I will try this out and report back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tomasz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Field<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August-05-17 6:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] doctype views with monograph-type and pres_type<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">The problem is that subtypes are stored in different fields depending on the type. That’s why this is somewhat tricky. There are type descriptions, but there’s not an easy way to display those in the browse view. You’d
need to override the view menu renderer — it’s possible, but probably fiddlier than the automatic field. See <a href="https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/views_render_menu_example.pl">https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/views_render_menu_example.pl</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Adam Field<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">On 2 Aug 2017, at 17:47, Tomasz Neugebauer <<a href="mailto:Tomasz.Neugebauer@concordia.ca">Tomasz.Neugebauer@concordia.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you Alan and Adam for the comments and suggestions. I had the impression that this would not be easy to do. Adam’s suggestion to create a
secondary subject-tree structure seems like the most efficient way to get this done, given the constraints. </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I was wondering if it would be a lot easier to just display a custom phrase next to each doctype in the view?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That means I wouldn’t get the “count” for each sub-type, but that isn’t as important as just knowing what the subtypes are. It isn’t obvious that
technical reports belong to the Monograph category, so the browse view would be improved if it could display a custom phrase to clarify.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It seems like it should be a lot easier to add a “description” phrase for each doctype, to get something like this on the browse page:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Article (1319)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D">(</span><b>articles in a journals magazines, newspapers</b>)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Monograph (87)</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> (</span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">technical_reports,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">project_reports,
documentation, manuals, working_papers,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">discussion_papers)</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best wishes,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tomasz</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Adam Field<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>August-02-17 4:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [EP-tech] doctype views with monograph-type and pres_type</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi Tomasz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">This seemed complicated, and I did some fiddling around with browse menu render
functions, but as I was doing it, I realised that I was replicating a subject tree browse view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">1) Create a subject tree representing all types and subtypes. For your subject
IDs, use <type>_<subtype>. (<a href="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Training_Video:Subject_Trees"><span style="color:purple">https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Training_Video:Subject_Trees</span></a>). Configuration would look something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">2) Create an automatic field that stores the type as the subject ID node on
that tree (<a href="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Training_Video:Automatic_Fields"><span style="color:purple">https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Training_Video:Automatic_Fields</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">$type_with_subtype .= ‘_’ . $eprint->value(‘monograph_type’);<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">$eprint->set_value(’type_with_subtype’ , $type_with_subtype);<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">3) Create a browse view based on the automatic field (this part is in the
automatic fields video).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">4) you can then rearrange the subject tree if you like so that book appears
under monograph.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA">I suppose type should be a subject tree, but it’s probably a bad idea to deviate
that far from eprints norms for such an important field. The down-side of this approach is that you now have type configuration in two places. If you update any types or subtypes, you need to remember to update your subject tree. That’s scriptable, but
that’s probably overkill. Alternatively, you can use the browse view render menu override capability (see <a href="https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/views_render_menu_example.pl"><span style="color:purple">https://github.com/eprints/eprints/blob/3.3/lib/defaultcfg/cfg.d/views_render_menu_example.pl</span></a>)
but that will involve generating a DOM tree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">On 2 Aug 2017, at 08:34, Alan.Stiles <<a href="mailto:alan.stiles@open.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">alan.stiles@open.ac.uk</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Tomasz,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We have a view something like that, but for academic units and schools :<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://oro.open.ac.uk/view/faculty_dept/"><span style="color:#954F72">http://oro.open.ac.uk/view/faculty_dept/</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>but
it is built against a subject tree rather than separate fields. I presume you are controlling the available set options in the workflow depending on the item type selected?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We don’t have separate Monograph and Book types, but a lot of the monograph types you’ve shown (we have a number of those same types defined but
under ‘other’) aren’t necessarily going to be books – are all books going to be monographs?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Not really all that much help I suspect, sorry!</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alan</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span style="color:#954F72">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span style="color:#954F72">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tomasz Neugebauer<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>01 August 2017 22:14<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk"><span style="color:#954F72">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[EP-tech] doctype views with monograph-type and pres_type</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We would like to include the display/count of the sub-types for doctypes on the “View by Document Types” page:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://spectrum.concordia.ca/view/doctype/"><span style="color:#954F72">http://spectrum.concordia.ca/view/doctype/</span></a></span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think that our settings are close to the EPrints defaults; we have the following “Conference or Workshop Item” types (defined as “pres_type” in eprint_fields.pl):
paper, lecture, speech, poster, keynote, other. </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We also have the following Monograph types (defined as “pres_type” in eprint_fields.pl): technical report, project report, documentation, manual, working paper,
discussion paper, other. </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thus, on the view by doctype, we would like to see something like this:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Article (1319)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Book Section (100)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Monograph (87)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">technical_report
([count of technical_report])</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">project_report
([count of project_report])</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">documentation
(count of documentation)</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">manual
(count of manual)</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">working_paper
(…etc…)</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">discussion_paper
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">other
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Conference or Workshop Item (121)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">paper
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">lecture
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">speech
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">poster
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">keynote
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">other
()</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Book (6)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">• Thesis (13040)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">…</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Has this type of view been done already? Any advice on the best way to do that? Is that something that can be done just by tweaking the views.pl?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A related question to that is, by default, the “Book” doctype is separated out from “Monograph”, which seems counter-intuitive. Has anyone combined these two
doctypes? Is there a reason to keep them separate?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best wishes,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tomasz</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#A6A6A6">________</span><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#A6A6A6">________________________________________</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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