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<p class="MsoNormal">Nice! So, how about updating the wiki with your newly acquired expertise? One of these seem like candidates for a section on conditional fieldname rendering:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Phrase_Format">http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Phrase_Format</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Citation_Format<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">…also, I would suggest that you create two phrases for the helptext for this field in the workflow and do the same there so that your data input is covered (that’s the use-case that I remember this technique from).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Feel free to email me directly if you want me to proof-read your documentation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Corbel;color:#2C3841">Adam Field</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black"><eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk> on behalf of "Nault, Pierre" <nault.pierre@uqam.ca><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 24 February 2017 16:33<br>
<b>To: </b>"'eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk'" <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EP-tech] Alternative text in phrase file</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Find it!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">I thought it was possible to use epc in phrase files because of this
<a href="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Phrase_Format">https://wiki.eprints.org/w/Phrase_Format</a></span><span style="color:black"> and the namespace
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">“</span><a href="https://wiki.eprints.org/w/EPrints_Control_Format" title="EPrints Control Format">EPrints Control Format</a> elements may be used inside the phrase file - in this example
a pin is used within the phrase, which is supplied when the phrase is rendered”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">But Adam give me the idea of:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">In zzzzz.xml:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"><epp:phrase id="eprint_fieldname_official_url.masterthesis">Document d'accompagnement</epp:phrase></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"><epp:phrase id="eprint_fieldname_official_url.other">Adresse URL</epp:phrase></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">And in summary.xml:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <epc:if test="official_url"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <div style="margin-bottom: 1em"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <!-- .20170224.pn -> <epc:phrase ref="eprint_fieldname_official_url"/>: <epc:print expr="official_url" /> --></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <epc:choose></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <epc:when test="type.one_of( 'master','thesis')"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <epc:phrase ref="eprint_fieldname_official_url.masterthesis"/>: <epc:print expr="official_url" /></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </epc:when></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <epc:otherwise></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <epc:phrase ref="eprint_fieldname_official_url.other"/>: <epc:print expr="official_url" />
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </epc:otherwise></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </epc:choose></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </div></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </epc:if></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">And it works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks a lot,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Pierre Nault</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">De :</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
<b>De la part de</b> John Salter<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> 24 février 2017 09:38</span><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">À :</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [EP-tech] Alternative text in phrase file</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">I was just pondering whether this would actually work…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><epc: > is a declared namespace in phrase files - but by inspection, this is used for pins, values and other phrases, not the logical tests.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">I'm not sure you'd get the eprint passed to the phrase to be able to test anything on it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">John</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">PS and I didn't read the stipulation about eprint types - you know what you're doing there it seems! Sorry!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">
eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Field<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 February 2017 14:26<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EP-tech] Alternative text in phrase file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I didn’t know you could use conditionals inside phrases. You can in templates. That might be the way to go. I have a memory of setting up phrases like this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><epp:phrase_id=”eprint_fieldname_official_url.masters”>sdfsdf</epp:phrase><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">and then selecting it with a conditional in the appropriate template.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> on behalf of John Salter <<a href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk">J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 24 February 2017 14:04<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EP-tech] Alternative text in phrase file</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think you need to have the phrase defined, and the logic inside that:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">You're also testing 'type' - which is normally 'article', 'thesis', 'book_chapter'… The field you might want to test it 'thesis_type'?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">[This is untested!]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"><</span>epp:phrase id="eprint_fieldname_official_url"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <epc:choose><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <epc:when test="thesis_type='master'">Adresse master</epc:when><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <epc:when test="thesis_type='thesis'">Adresse these</epc:when><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <epc:otherwise>Adresse URL</epc:otherwise><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </epc:choose><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"></epp:phrase><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">John</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">
eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nault, Pierre<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 February 2017 13:52<br>
<b>To:</b> 'eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk' <<a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Alternative text in phrase file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> We want to display a different label in the eprint rendering page for the field <epp:phrase id="eprint_fieldname_official_url">Adresse URL</epp:phrase> if the eprint type is ‘master’ or ‘thesis’.
In zzzzz.xml we have tried with <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <epc:choose><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Pierre Nault<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Université du Québec à Montréal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Tél : 514-987-3000 #4554<o:p></o:p></p>
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