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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Corbel;color:#2C3841">Adam Field</span></b><br>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">&quot;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch&quot; &lt;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 7 December 2016 07:37<br>
<b>To: </b>Adam Field &lt;Adam.Field@jisc.ac.uk&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&quot; &lt;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Dear Adam,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">thanks for your statement.</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&gt; Aside from failing an HTML purity test, are there further issues caused by these unrecognized tags? &nbsp;Is there a better way EPrints could present this information?</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Fulfilling the tests is not for your own sake... it made it easier to make a deeper look behind the scenes, showed us a lot about bad things that grew through the years AND let us know things about 'old school'
 tags (tables e.g) that could be a problem for mobile usage. So all in all we want to go the road till the end of all warnings ;-)</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheers</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&nbsp;Jens</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">-- <br>
Jens Vieler<br>
Zentrale Informatik<br>
Universität Zürich</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">mail: &nbsp;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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<img border="0" width="16" height="16" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.gif@01D25079.340651E0" alt="nactive hide details for Adam Field ---05.12.2016 12:45:35---Hi Jens     "><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#424282">Adam
 Field ---05.12.2016 12:45:35---Hi Jens &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; So, the sword interface was going to be the next big thing a few years ago,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">Von:
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Adam Field &lt;Adam.Field@jisc.ac.uk&gt;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">An: </span>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&quot;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch&quot; &lt;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch&gt;, &quot;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&quot; &lt;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&gt;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">Datum:
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">05.12.2016 12:45</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">Betreff:
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Re: Antwort: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi Jens</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; So, the sword interface was going to be the next big thing a few years ago, allowing automated deposit into repositories. &nbsp;Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to have stuck (for whatever reason).
 &nbsp;For example, PURE, the CRIS, has its own connector that you need to install in EPrints in order to allow automated updating of records. &nbsp;Symplectic Elements is the same.</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I’m not sure what the status of the project is, or who could take on extra EPrints development required to make it HTML compliant (I assume that modifying EPrints would be simpler than modifying
 the HTML spec). &nbsp;As for me, my responsibilities are currently tied to SHERPA Services, so I’m not able to spend any time on this, but I’ll ask around and see if I can find anyone connected with this.</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Aside from failing an HTML purity test, are there further issues caused by these unrecognized tags? &nbsp;Is there a better way EPrints could present this information?</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">&nbsp;</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Best Wishes</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Corbel;color:#2C3841">Adam Field</span></b><span style="font-family:Corbel;color:#2C3841"><br>
SHERPA services analyst developer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri">&quot;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch&quot; &lt;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch&gt;<b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, 30 November 2016 09:37<b><br>
To: </b>&quot;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&quot; &lt;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&gt;<b><br>
Cc: </b>Adam Field &lt;Adam.Field@jisc.ac.uk&gt;<b><br>
Subject: </b>Antwort: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints</span><br>
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<p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Hey Ian,<br>
(Cc: Adam Field because this is jisc stuff)</span><br>
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thanks - and i found </span><a href="http://wiki.eprints.org/w/API:EPrints/Apache/CRUD#DESCRIPTION"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">http://wiki.eprints.org/w/API:EPrints/Apache/CRUD#DESCRIPTION</span></a><br>
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So i redefine my question: Which kind of application really uses this CRUD API?</span><br>
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On the other hand we could talk about what the validator </span><a href="https://validator.w3.org/nu/?showsource=yes&amp;showoutline=yes&amp;showimagereport=yes&amp;doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zora.uzh.ch%2F120438%2F"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">https://validator.w3.org/nu/?showsource=yes&amp;showoutline=yes&amp;showimagereport=yes&amp;doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zora.uzh.ch%2F120438%2F</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;says</span><br>
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&quot;Bad value </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Sword</span><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;for attribute
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">rel</span><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;on element
</span><a href="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-link-element"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">link</span></a><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">: The string
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">sword</span><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;is not a registered keyword.
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&quot;Bad value </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">SwordDeposit</span><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;for attribute
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">rel</span><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;on element
</span><a href="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-link-element"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">link</span></a><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">: The string
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">sworddeposit</span><span style="font-family:&quot;serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;is not a registered keyword.&quot;<br>
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and about registering 'sword' and 'sworddeposit'. I think, this should be jisc's job... @Adam???</span><br>
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Jens</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><br>
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Jens Vieler<br>
Zentrale Informatik<br>
Universität Zürich</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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 Stuart ---30.11.2016 10:16:34---SWORD 2 </span><a href="http://wiki.eprints.org/w/SWORD"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">http://wiki.eprints.org/w/SWORD</span></a><br>
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Von: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Ian Stuart &lt;Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk&gt;<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
An: </span>&lt;eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk&gt;<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Datum: </span>30.11.2016 10:16<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Betreff: </span>Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Gesendet von: </span>eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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SWORD 2<br>
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The second &lt;link /&gt; is where one goes to find out what the specific <br>
SWORD configuration is for the repository<br>
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The third &lt;link /&gt; is the base URL for making SWORD deposits<br>
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What's the fight about?<br>
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On 30/11/16 09:00, jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch wrote:<br>
&gt; Dear List,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; after making some changes on templates and a couple of modules like<br>
&gt; XHTML.pm, we proudly offer some output, that looks like html5 - just to<br>
&gt; calm down W3C Validator (</span><a href="https://validator.w3.org/nu/"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">https://validator.w3.org/nu/</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">) on our responsive<br>
&gt; design. In the end we fight against these link rels:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *&lt;link rel=&quot;schema.DC&quot; href=&quot;**http://purl.org/DC/elements/1.0/**&quot; /&gt;*<br>
&gt; *&lt;link rel=&quot;Sword&quot;<br>
&gt; href=&quot;**https://www.zora.uzh.ch/sword-app/servicedocument**&quot; /&gt;*<br>
&gt; *&lt;link rel=&quot;SwordDeposit&quot; href=&quot;**https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/contents**&quot;<br>
&gt; /&gt;*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does anybody know, what they are use for? Are Sword links really nedded<br>
&gt; in every single webpage?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jens<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Jens Vieler<br>
&gt; Zentrale Informatik<br>
&gt; Universität Zürich</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&gt; mail: &nbsp;jens.vieler@id.uzh.ch</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&gt; phone: &#43;41 44 63 56777</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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