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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Adam,<br>
<br>
Given recent developments (the divisions-and-subject bug), soon
I'll need to upgrade my repository (or just patch it, but I prefer
upgrading). The current EPrints documentation
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Upgrading_EPrints_3_versions">http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Upgrading_EPrints_3_versions</a>) is
clearly not adequate for an upgrade to anyone having customised
even the slightest bit of EPrints. What I would do in order to
upgrade would be to backup my ~eprints directory, upgrade my
EPrints package using debian's apt-get, upgrade my EPrints
installation using ~eprints/bin/epadmin upgrade (hoping that this
would not change anything in live my repository, but I'm
relatively optimistic that it won't), create a new repository with
the latest version, and follow my extensive guidelines from my
redmine issues to bring the new repository to the same state as my
previous one.<br>
<br>
This method may work for me, but I don't think that this is what
an EPrints newcomer would expect to do when upgrading their's. So
-and based on my current experience with EPrints- I think that two
-or more videos- (or any other means of documentation) need to be
available for EPrints maintenance:<br>
<br>
- a few videos explaining how to *CORRECTLY* customise an EPrints
repository, by adding new configuration files or whatever is
needed to be changed, without touching anything that an upgrade
would break (like custom workflows, custom plugins, branding
(xhtml pages and css), custom fields, custom searches, and
practically *EVERYTHING* that usually people wish to change -and
are afraid doing- after installing EPrints). What I've understood
so far from my small experience with EPrints, and please correct
me if I'm wrong, is that the "cleanest" way of customising
anything in EPrints would be to not change any vanilla files,
create new files that "override" EPrints' default "behaviour" and
finally (maybe optionally, but not sure) create a bazaar package
(for
portability/installation-independence/decoupling/maintenance). I
am not sure, though (architecturally speaking), if every
customisation can be achieved without tainting the initial
installation, and If so, the package step is then mandatory.<br>
<br>
- a smaller video showing how to upgrade EPrints from one version
to another, that also shows how customisations haven't been
affected, or how they have been addressed using the previously
generated packages.<br>
<br>
I know that you've made two great videos regarding bazaar packages
(I've only watched one of them, and will watch the second after I
finish my customisations and start creating packages for each
feature I had to add), but I'm sure that novices (like me) would
like to know many more details wrt to packages in regard to each
type of EPrints customisation (branding, workflows, custom
fields/searches, etc).<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, current EPrints documentation is very distributed,
sometimes deprecated and worst of all: *not upgrade friendly at
all*. If I follow the steps I've read in EPrints documentation for
my customisations, there would be no way my repository would
function after following the documentation's upgrade procedure.
And clean upgrade procedures is a *MUST* in any software product.<br>
<br>
Thanks again Adam, and all of you, for all the help, and once I
finish with my repo I'll update EPrints wiki (since I'm more of a
reading type rather than a watching one :)) with all my notes,
because at the moment, a newcomer would not be able to do things
"right" just by following it and not asking this list.<br>
<br>
On 20/07/2015 05:05 πμ, Adam Field wrote:<br>
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I've added some of your suggestions to my list of video idea.
Browse View configuration and the EPrints workflow are already
already on my list, but I've added search configuration and user
roles, too.
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<div>Is there anything you're working on at the moment that a
video would help with?<br>
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Adam Field<br>
Business Relationship Manager and Community Lead<br>
EPrints Services</div>
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<div>I am currently not working in the UK. Due to
timezone differences (GMT -9) email responses may take
longer.</div>
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<div>On 16 Jul 2015, at 14:51, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mamalos@eng.auth.gr">mamalos@eng.auth.gr</a>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Maybe
a small video explaining custom browse-by
alternatives and adding them to the menu? Or how
to add newly created fields in searches maybe
(since you have lots of videos that add new
fields)? Or how to configure workflows (user,
eprints, etc) and maybe how to create a package
with the new workflows. Ah, or how about adding
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Ok,
now I stop, I think that's enough suggestions from
one person:-) :-) .</div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><b>Από: </b>Adam
Field</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><b>Ημερομηνία: </b>Τετ,
15 Ιουλ 2015 11:22</div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><b>Θέμα:</b>[EP-tech]
Automatic Fields training video</div>
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With today's publication of the Automatic Fields
training video at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://youtu.be/17OuthpCxck">https://youtu.be/17OuthpCxck</a>
(and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Training_Video:Automatic_Fields">http://wiki.eprints.org/w/Training_Video:Automatic_Fields</a> ),
I've completed my trilogy covering the configuration
of default, virtual and automatic fields.
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<div>If anyone watches it and finds it useful, I'd
be grateful if they would supply me with an index
to include on the youtube page, in the form of:</div>
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<div>0:00 Introduction</div>
<div>0:30 Topic 1</div>
<div>1:43 Topic 2</div>
<div>4:37 Topic 3</div>
<div>...etc</div>
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<div>Also, does anyone have any requests for the
next video? I'll give preference to less
technical topics as the last few videos have been
perl-heavy.</div>
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<div>--<br>
Adam Field<br>
Business Relationship Manager and Community
Lead<br>
EPrints Services</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I am currently not working in the UK.
Due to timezone differences (GMT -9) email
responses may take longer.</div>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
George Mamalakis
IT and Security Officer,
Electrical and Computer Engineer (Aristotle Univ. of Thessaloniki),
PhD (Aristotle Univ. of Thessaloniki),
MSc (Imperial College of London)
School of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Aristotle University of Thessaloniki
phone number : +30 (2310) 994379
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